Afes ^Adult

LubaSerpente 8 months ago

Yes Suz this sim is amazing and we all love it Tahnk you so much kiss :-)

LubaSerpente 8 months ago

Poor People that had epic fail in SL, joined Opensim thinking to be creator selling old junk that SL trashed years ago...We don't need to go back to SL 2004 niter we came here to serve your dear economy Suz.
All this drama/agony speech is not about copybot, it's about sales and traffic, Zangrid is a pure desert only 351 active users going down every month everybody please check Zangrid 72 hours traffic line, Zangrid also refuses to delete stolen content from their asset servers all stolen from SL Maitreya, Blueberry, Belleza, Glam Affair, Slink, Signature, Addams,Just Because, Truth, Lelutka, Erratic, Laq, Redgrave, Amacci, EMO-tions, Exile, N-Core, KC, Pixel Mode Empire, Wasabi, Pils, Abranimations Vista Animations, Tutys Fanatik Botha Abiss, InVerse, Onsu Laq Headhunter's Island, Bahia Tiki, Quantum Luxury Homes, Prefabrica, Tromp Loeil, Skye all this stuff opens in Zangrid they know they refuse to delete they keep it, they change it they use it share sell and resell for real money.
Bring any SL user there he will tell you. Zangrid is a oldwell-knownn copybot grid we all know that need proof lol?
Take any copyboted avatar there it will rez with all the cloths!!!!

Afes/Sacrarium came from nothing this month had 597 active user and will be much more. So Suz People love and you just can't change people mind :-) Love beats Hate :-) Free beats Paid :-) Drama and fear does not work anymore in Opensim those days are over now :-)

I ask you to go cry in your pages, respect Opensimworld this is not the place and have some dignity.

Also take back your kiara alt because you just look like Linda Kellie speaking with her own alts :-)

I wish Maria could report this copybot scandal in Zangrid, but everybody in the community already knows. ... (more)

Suzblessed 8 months ago

I do think that it is out of order to talk about the people who like to create and sell in open sim like you do: this is also without respect. Many people who do sell their things did actually buy licences in sl from the creators and are allowed to sell. Many sl. creators also have written in their TOS that it is not allowed to give away those items for free. We respect this. And you bash on us all because we respect the people who made all you steal and give away for free? You can say anything about Zangrid, but not all people are as dumb as you might think, they know better. All the stuff you mentioned above we do not have as far as I know and when we do and I do know I ask the people to remove and they do . So what exactly is your point. You mention names of some creators in sl who are actually friends and you believe I would steal from them? Nuts. ... (more)

Goosson 8 months ago

Look around you. For many years opensim consist of stolen content. In a global sense, theft is theft and theft is evil. However, in this case, nothing can be done about it. We cant stop it. Many people think that Opensim is the refuge of pirates. But the blame lies not only on those who steal content, but also on Linden Labs, who take huge money from their users and can not protect their content. In addition, the creators live and work in SL. They sell their goods in SL and benefit in SL. Opensim can be regarded as a sandbox pampering. No one in Opensim benefits from stolen content. A real evil is when someone sells stolen for a currency in Opensim. As far as I know, freebies from Afes that can only be used on the territory of the Sacrarium grid. If you take items out on another grid and distribute them, then you are a criminal. I witnessed several people being banned for this. One day Afes was banned by a man who carried out content on his grid and sold it for currency. One must be honest and recognize that, like many other projects, Afes does everything to resist theft and illegal trade of stolen items.
A person should be responsible for his actions. If you want to stop thieves, if you are a patriot, then do not take items out of the grid. Or don’t use it, or never be on freebe mall. Whats problem? Why do you only talk about stolen content in the form of 3D models? And what about the textures you take from the Internet? Are you sure you can take them for free? You make a house out of prims and use textures from the internet. Each texture has an author who also does not work for free. Have you at least once asked permission of the author or indicated a link to it? I think no at most of causes. How about animations, sounds, music on your streams? And when you see movies in internet from movie stocks for free – it is crime too. Or when you use models for your clothes without ask author permission- what is it? It is a crime! Afes removes the content at the first request of the author, did you know? If a person proves his authorship. If the person is not the author, but comes to arrange dramas, then he sent to the ban. I think it's fair. ... (more)

kiara 8 months ago

So because it's 'been there for years' and 'nothing can be done about it' is reason to encourage the tide of Maitreya/Argrace/Slink etc.? I agree we can never be totally sure that our goods are 100% legitimate but we can have the responsibility to limit the problem for and from ourselves. A personal choice and personal responsibility. We don't need to encourage it and welcome it with open arms. In my opinion it does us no favours at all and I stand by that. I intend no personal attack towards Afes - as I say, the damage is done - but actively encouraging the stolen content is, I feel, counter-productive, not beneficial to everything Opensim could stand for. Why create when we can steal from SL? So everyone can wear the same mesh Bento heads for a few weeks until they get bored? Is it really worth it? ... (more)

Goosson 8 months ago

Countries have different copyright laws. In some countries, broader views on this issue and networks operate under this legislation. I do not know what laws are in the country where the Afes server is located. If to accuse of anything Afes, then it is necessary to do it proceeding from the local legislation. IMAO The problem of stolen content is spoken for years. But this does not mean that we now need to abandon shops like Afes. What should we do now? Most Grids do not have economic and the creators do not release Bento specifically for Opensim. If trading were developed in Opensim, all people would buy with pleasure licensed content. At this time all that freebe markets can do, it is banish a stolen traders. And Afes is not a root of this problem, it is just a one of consequence. We must admit that due to Afes many illegal traders were banned in other grids. You know? All knows that large freebe malls exchange information with each other to banish illegal sellers. And this is a worthy contribution to the fight against piracy. To demand anything more from Afes means simply to arrange a drama. If you can not offer anything more useful than drama, then this is conversation about nothing. People love Afes, because there are not only many things here, but also many good and honest people. In addition, different ... (more)

MikeLorrey 8 months ago

Almost all countries, other than, say, North Korea, are signatories to the GATT treaty and members of WIPO, which makes copyright a human right under the Bern Convention. Afes is in Russia, which is a signatory to all these.
I am in the process of talking to some bento creators to bring their work to Opensim. If all you want them to do is DMCA everything, then keep supporting these criminals here. If you want legal quality work in OS, then stop supporting these crooks in afes.

kiara 8 months ago

As an open forum, I merely offer my opinion and have stated thus. I also stated I was in no way attacking Afes personally - I don't know Afes - merely the distribution of clearly and obviously stolen content from SL of which this appears to be one such example of a growing number. This to some, including myself , is an alarming trend for the reasons I have stated. I make no mention of copyright law, globally or otherwise, - for me it's first and foremost, an ethical issue of personal responsibility - we can't avoid piracy entirely, but we can limit it, and we don't have to like it. And furthermore, blanketing an opposing view and roughly throwing it in a box called 'drama' (another recent 'trend' it seems) in my opinion is nothing more than disingenuous obfuscation. I said what I wanted to say. I'll say goodbye and thank you before the thread no doubt disappears too. :) ... (more)

Goosson 8 months ago

Okay, thanks for voicing your opinion. This is without a doubt important and interesting for us. You raised a very acute problem. I apologize if my words hurt you personally. I did not want that. But when we talk about problems like stolen content, we must be careful and avoid to cast shadow on the specific personal’s reputation and their projects. And I agree with you that the community must resist piracy and do everything to avoid problems with copyright. Thank you for an interesting conversation. Good luck to you!

kiara 8 months ago

Not upset in the least (though thanks for your kind thoughts) - and 'stolen' is 'stolen', legally or otherwise, no matter how carefully it is uttered. Once again I insist I attack no-ones reputation, merely the growing trend for distributing others creations. You fail to acknowledge this - I am beating my head against a copybotted brick wall. Good luck to you also or for as long as this remains.