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Indeed you are right, the issue is mainly of a software nature (rather than hardware), the "system" (so to speak) that we adopt in Opensim-based simulators, in Second Life, and in viewers more generally, to achieve good quality makes even very powerful computers "suffer".
Without going into excessive technical details, just consider that in Sansar, it offers (with VSync) 60 FPS even on dated computers with all graphics options set to maximum, including reflections (mirrors with real-time reflections and many other graphic beauties).
It's precisely the system as it's designed and implemented in these metaverses (and in video games), which manages to offer the maximum for the visual experience without overly burdening computer hardware.
This is because they preload the entire scenario which is then processed in a sort of "box", so they preload the map and even if you have to move to an adjacent simulator, the transition doesn't have the cross-sim and you still have to wait for the loading of the new map. Even the cache is managed differently.
Simply to notice the immense qualitative difference (also in physics), just enter Sansar where even not very recent computers with graphics set to maximum can manage the entire scenario and dynamics within it without lag or loading problems of textures or cloud avatars.
Try it out for yourselves.
The concept of the Metaverse is now focused on user experiences of this kind, Decentraland, The Sandbox, Minecraft, Sansar, and others are all decidedly more efficient and less "heavy" for computers.
SL/OS are much more complex starting from the viewers, and therefore much heavier, for this reason PBR, Mirrors, and much more will make many computers struggle.
Honestly, PBR is not of interest to me, much less functional mirrors in OS or SL, I actually think they are useless, they provide a very nice visual experience yes, but if SL doesn't change the way it manages this through the viewer just like Sansar and the others do, even recent computers will always struggle.
That's my opinion.
In particular, what impressed me positively about Sansar is the real-time reflection on a whiteboard in an Egyptian museum, and the fact that both a very performant computer and one from 10 years ago with a 5-year-old video card returned the exact same experience.
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Without going into excessive technical details, just consider that in Sansar, it offers (with VSync) 60 FPS even on dated computers with all graphics options set to maximum, including reflections (mirrors with real-time reflections and many other graphic beauties).
It's precisely the system as it's designed and implemented in these metaverses (and in video games), which manages to offer the maximum for the visual experience without overly burdening computer hardware.
This is because they preload the entire scenario which is then processed in a sort of "box", so they preload the map and even if you have to move to an adjacent simulator, the transition doesn't have the cross-sim and you still have to wait for the loading of the new map. Even the cache is managed differently.
Simply to notice the immense qualitative difference (also in physics), just enter Sansar where even not very recent computers with graphics set to maximum can manage the entire scenario and dynamics within it without lag or loading problems of textures or cloud avatars.
Try it out for yourselves.
The concept of the Metaverse is now focused on user experiences of this kind, Decentraland, The Sandbox, Minecraft, Sansar, and others are all decidedly more efficient and less "heavy" for computers.
SL/OS are much more complex starting from the viewers, and therefore much heavier, for this reason PBR, Mirrors, and much more will make many computers struggle.
Honestly, PBR is not of interest to me, much less functional mirrors in OS or SL, I actually think they are useless, they provide a very nice visual experience yes, but if SL doesn't change the way it manages this through the viewer just like Sansar and the others do, even recent computers will always struggle.
That's my opinion.
In particular, what impressed me positively about Sansar is the real-time reflection on a whiteboard in an Egyptian museum, and the fact that both a very performant computer and one from 10 years ago with a 5-year-old video card returned the exact same experience.
Yep, my 1050 loaded laptop works great in Sansar for sure. I also have an account in VRChat (PC only), and sine.space. All three of them work really well, thanks to everything being well optimized. I can run on low to mid settings on them and they all run smoothly... but because of that I typically run on high settings in those places, unless I'm in a crowded area.
But these places also suffer from slowdowns when they're crowded. People have reported that VRchat slows down with heavy crowds, and that's with users running in newer PC setups. I think it's slightly better with Sansar as far as handling crowds, I've been in some crowded spaces with my modest PC there and it hardly slows down for me. Of course I have to turn down graphics and switch off shadows... just like SL and OS.
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But these places also suffer from slowdowns when they're crowded. People have reported that VRchat slows down with heavy crowds, and that's with users running in newer PC setups. I think it's slightly better with Sansar as far as handling crowds, I've been in some crowded spaces with my modest PC there and it hardly slows down for me. Of course I have to turn down graphics and switch off shadows... just like SL and OS.
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I agree with you, you made a very important and well-structured speech that encompasses every context.
Personally, in AviVerse, child avatars are not accepted. The issue, as you explained well, is that it would be impossible to know exactly what a child avatar is doing in regions with other adults, just as it would be impossible, and also too invasive, to continuously monitor users.
So, to avoid problems, we have decided not to allow avatars with childlike appearances. In this regard, AviVerse has adopted a control system that fairly accurately prevents the presence of child avatars, mostly with heights below average (about 1.50 meters), and now I'm trying to narrow down a range of heights between 1.00 meters and 1.50 meters to allow, for example, avatars of some cute characters like fairies or gnomes, kittens, and other cute things like that but not child avatars. For now, the system accurately captures heights without error and works well.
You also captured the discussion about laws well, so you have made, again for me, a wonderfully truthful speech. I don't dislike those who accept avatars with childlike appearances or those who use them for role-playing purposes without bad intentions, but I prefer to avoid adopting measures where child avatars are prohibited.
hugs Safine :)
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Personally, in AviVerse, child avatars are not accepted. The issue, as you explained well, is that it would be impossible to know exactly what a child avatar is doing in regions with other adults, just as it would be impossible, and also too invasive, to continuously monitor users.
So, to avoid problems, we have decided not to allow avatars with childlike appearances. In this regard, AviVerse has adopted a control system that fairly accurately prevents the presence of child avatars, mostly with heights below average (about 1.50 meters), and now I'm trying to narrow down a range of heights between 1.00 meters and 1.50 meters to allow, for example, avatars of some cute characters like fairies or gnomes, kittens, and other cute things like that but not child avatars. For now, the system accurately captures heights without error and works well.
You also captured the discussion about laws well, so you have made, again for me, a wonderfully truthful speech. I don't dislike those who accept avatars with childlike appearances or those who use them for role-playing purposes without bad intentions, but I prefer to avoid adopting measures where child avatars are prohibited.
hugs Safine :)
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Rimettiti presto Valeria che ti aspettiamo per fare due chiacchiere, un saluto ed un augurio per un veloce recupero! :)
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Allow me, even if the context interests me little, I have met the owner of AvatarLife and I am aware that Dex, who was the technician of Avitron, actually works there.
I didn't want to intervene until I read something inappropriate or somehow personally relevant to me, so I'll tell you, I felt like making some remarks, not because OpenLife is unquestionably right (because honestly, some attacks are exaggerated), but because this time his post intrigued me.
As a grid owner, I tell you:
It's true that not all grids are perfectly compliant with the law, especially those created at home or out of simple passion, but they don't profit from this.
If you profit, you'll agree with me that you're subject, especially for gambling, to certain rules based on the country where you're legally based. Indeed, there's no corporate reference on your website (you'll probably fix this soon, I know, now you've been warned and you'll try to protect yourself), unlike the largest grid, Wolf Grid by Lone, which is not only the most advanced at the moment but also has a solid legal basis with declared companies and much more. Also in Italy (I am Italian), there is Craft, which answers to a company and is perfectly compliant, but we can also mention OSGrid and other grids with clear positions and legal frameworks. And this doesn't disadvantage friendly grids at all since they don't profit anyway.
Taking free content from Opensim and locking it within AvatarLife is not a fair attitude towards the community, while opening Hypergrid and only blocking some content might have been more appropriate.
From personal experience, I tell you that having a region listed here where you invite people to your grid but don't allow them to visit via Hypergrid makes me think that OpenLife is right... you shouldn't even be listed.
I know Sushant, surely a good person, but his primary commitment is probably to pay people like you, and that explains the nature of your comment - it's clearly an advertisement. Also, remember that every grid owner is committed to their own... it's not just Sushant doing it.
I confirm that you try to imitate ideas from others, which is not inherently wrong, but the result is really embarrassing because imitation is never like the original.
You released your own version of Firestorm; publish its source code and start respecting the laws from there, don't violate the licenses.
Please respond to Openlife explaining the RNG story, I'm curious about it: how do you connect the RNG to an LSL-written VLT slot? How is it verified online by the authority responsible for control? Is it a valid certificate? Is it real? This is of technical interest to me because in the environment where I indulge, chess programming, there is a programmer working at Novomatic, and speaking to him, someone here can confirm, he explained to me that the games, the management of both online and real servers, the combinations, the payouts, and pay-ins are all registered and supervised by responsible authorities; in Italy, for example, there is Sogei, if I remember correctly, so they are not independent crypts and are not connected to control authorities. But I'm curious about this and would like to understand more.
Really, believe me, there are dozens of grids that give away regions to increase user numbers, but this doesn't mean you're the best or the most frequented. You've just said, "we give away regions, users come, we give them free things in Opensim that we take and they stay here, we pay for the rest to stay and create content". Wolf Grid by Lone doesn't do this, it doesn't give away regions; it's a truly immense and stable grid, the same goes for OSGrid, it doesn't give away regions and yet it has thousands of users, the same goes for others like Craft or Astralia, AviVerse, etc.
And just to clarify, my grid is located as a server in Italy and is owned servers (not rented from OVH or other hosting companies, except for domains) and complies with Italian and European laws... all of them, so much so that we have also removed the internal currency to avoid problems (which instead WTG can do because it is compliant on that too), so even you are commenting with not quite appropriate phrases.
Honestly, we hope to soon open our Italian base in WTG, on which we are working, because it gives us a lot of confidence as well as an unparalleled technical department.
Sushant knows these things well because I told him directly, especially when he came to AviVerse... honestly, if I could go back, I wouldn't let him set foot in my platform.
Also, remember that Linden Lab lives on users and the revenue they generate, including games, so if Linden has removed certain gaming machines or other systems, it's to avoid legal problems.
Greetings and good luck, especially good luck.
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I didn't want to intervene until I read something inappropriate or somehow personally relevant to me, so I'll tell you, I felt like making some remarks, not because OpenLife is unquestionably right (because honestly, some attacks are exaggerated), but because this time his post intrigued me.
As a grid owner, I tell you:
It's true that not all grids are perfectly compliant with the law, especially those created at home or out of simple passion, but they don't profit from this.
If you profit, you'll agree with me that you're subject, especially for gambling, to certain rules based on the country where you're legally based. Indeed, there's no corporate reference on your website (you'll probably fix this soon, I know, now you've been warned and you'll try to protect yourself), unlike the largest grid, Wolf Grid by Lone, which is not only the most advanced at the moment but also has a solid legal basis with declared companies and much more. Also in Italy (I am Italian), there is Craft, which answers to a company and is perfectly compliant, but we can also mention OSGrid and other grids with clear positions and legal frameworks. And this doesn't disadvantage friendly grids at all since they don't profit anyway.
Taking free content from Opensim and locking it within AvatarLife is not a fair attitude towards the community, while opening Hypergrid and only blocking some content might have been more appropriate.
From personal experience, I tell you that having a region listed here where you invite people to your grid but don't allow them to visit via Hypergrid makes me think that OpenLife is right... you shouldn't even be listed.
I know Sushant, surely a good person, but his primary commitment is probably to pay people like you, and that explains the nature of your comment - it's clearly an advertisement. Also, remember that every grid owner is committed to their own... it's not just Sushant doing it.
I confirm that you try to imitate ideas from others, which is not inherently wrong, but the result is really embarrassing because imitation is never like the original.
You released your own version of Firestorm; publish its source code and start respecting the laws from there, don't violate the licenses.
Please respond to Openlife explaining the RNG story, I'm curious about it: how do you connect the RNG to an LSL-written VLT slot? How is it verified online by the authority responsible for control? Is it a valid certificate? Is it real? This is of technical interest to me because in the environment where I indulge, chess programming, there is a programmer working at Novomatic, and speaking to him, someone here can confirm, he explained to me that the games, the management of both online and real servers, the combinations, the payouts, and pay-ins are all registered and supervised by responsible authorities; in Italy, for example, there is Sogei, if I remember correctly, so they are not independent crypts and are not connected to control authorities. But I'm curious about this and would like to understand more.
Really, believe me, there are dozens of grids that give away regions to increase user numbers, but this doesn't mean you're the best or the most frequented. You've just said, "we give away regions, users come, we give them free things in Opensim that we take and they stay here, we pay for the rest to stay and create content". Wolf Grid by Lone doesn't do this, it doesn't give away regions; it's a truly immense and stable grid, the same goes for OSGrid, it doesn't give away regions and yet it has thousands of users, the same goes for others like Craft or Astralia, AviVerse, etc.
And just to clarify, my grid is located as a server in Italy and is owned servers (not rented from OVH or other hosting companies, except for domains) and complies with Italian and European laws... all of them, so much so that we have also removed the internal currency to avoid problems (which instead WTG can do because it is compliant on that too), so even you are commenting with not quite appropriate phrases.
Honestly, we hope to soon open our Italian base in WTG, on which we are working, because it gives us a lot of confidence as well as an unparalleled technical department.
Sushant knows these things well because I told him directly, especially when he came to AviVerse... honestly, if I could go back, I wouldn't let him set foot in my platform.
Also, remember that Linden Lab lives on users and the revenue they generate, including games, so if Linden has removed certain gaming machines or other systems, it's to avoid legal problems.
Greetings and good luck, especially good luck.
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Lone is a competent and helpful person, there's not much to discuss, he's a very competent and kind person who deserves respect.
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Thanks to HG Safari, Thirza, and all the friends who came to greet us, it was a beautiful experience full of emotions and rich in friendship. Many thanks from the entire AviVerse Team.
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Tonight a small gift to thank the friends who will come to Zeno Singer's live! ---> https://prnt.sc/cbw6BeUFIx-T
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Tonight a small gift to thank the friends who will come to Zeno Singer's live! ---> https://prnt.sc/cbw6BeUFIx-T
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I think that to have a fully functioning API key without limitations to interface the script with OpenAI, a subscription of $20 per month is required.
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Well I originally had one from a friend that used php and you had to have your own website, but then you sent me a different one later, and it wouldn't work with opensim. I fixed that one you gave me to work with opensim, and yes it needs an api-key. You may have to pay for an api-key to use it, but they are cheap as dirt, so no big deal.
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