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I haven't been on SL in 6 months, and I went on the other night to attend a Burning Man event. They had about 60 people at peak, and it was so laggy it was really unbearable and local chat wasn't even functioning. Are those the kind of crowds we really want?
Our grid has been open for 2 1/2 years. Including our previous grid, a total of about 8 years. The past year or so, we have been doing really well. We do not have super high active numbers, but the people who are on regularly are very busy building beautiful things and seem to get a lot of value from it. If we had a "happiness index" like Denmark, I'd say that using a quality of life metric like that, things have really improved. For a long time we had mostly people who bounced from grid to grid to grid. Now a lot consider it home. In all the years I have been in OpenSim, this past year has been the most satisfying.
I don't think OpenSim will generically appeal to most SL people. But we have valuable resources to offer specific communities. Like our grid has a large portion of the SL Burning Man community, and they love having huge areas to build on. Or we could focus on attracting other communities that we can specifically offer something of value to. The trade-off being less crowds, no SL marketplace, etc. but pretty limitless resources to build.
I'd love to start a sentence with "Most people in SL _________" I have been there for 18 years. I still have no idea WTF people see in it anymore. I only remember what it meant to me 17-18 years ago, and that has been replaced by OpenSim.
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Our grid has been open for 2 1/2 years. Including our previous grid, a total of about 8 years. The past year or so, we have been doing really well. We do not have super high active numbers, but the people who are on regularly are very busy building beautiful things and seem to get a lot of value from it. If we had a "happiness index" like Denmark, I'd say that using a quality of life metric like that, things have really improved. For a long time we had mostly people who bounced from grid to grid to grid. Now a lot consider it home. In all the years I have been in OpenSim, this past year has been the most satisfying.
I don't think OpenSim will generically appeal to most SL people. But we have valuable resources to offer specific communities. Like our grid has a large portion of the SL Burning Man community, and they love having huge areas to build on. Or we could focus on attracting other communities that we can specifically offer something of value to. The trade-off being less crowds, no SL marketplace, etc. but pretty limitless resources to build.
I'd love to start a sentence with "Most people in SL _________" I have been there for 18 years. I still have no idea WTF people see in it anymore. I only remember what it meant to me 17-18 years ago, and that has been replaced by OpenSim.
"I haven't been on SL in 6 months, and I went on the other night to attend a Burning Man event. They had about 60 people at peak, and it was so laggy it was really unbearable and local chat wasn't even functioning. Are those the kind of crowds we really want?"
That doesn't speak for SL, does it?
I mean, I myself love small events where you can actually use the local chat as a chat without loads of people spamming it with gestures.
But big events with 50, 60 or more avatars happen on special occasions. And if they really suffer from server lag, that's because the region server underneath the sim is unfit for the task. Hypergrid International Expo has recently changed from an OSCC-style around-the-sim-corners build with one sim for the stage and three for the audience to a single sim because you can throw such a lot at region servers nowadays.
Just recently, I was at a Woodstock-inspired peace festival. At least half the German OpenSim scene was there plus some more avatars from elsewhere. We were over 55 avatars at times. No problems. Some avatars took long to rez, but you have that all the time with today's unoptimised hi-poly avatars.
A bit less than two years ago, Juno modelled at a fashion show. There were over 60 avatars. Nobody had expected that many avatars, and I think they didn't even have seats for all of them. No problems again, only the viewer FPS tanked when she turned towards where the other models were stashed away. Granted, the sim as it was during the fashion show had no scripts running except for the chairs for the audience, and it was purpose-built for this event instead of being a big, multi-purpose var.
"Like our grid has a large portion of the SL Burning Man community, and they love having huge areas to build on."
Not to mention that you can probably pay less for a 4x4 var in OpenSim than for a parcel with a few hundred prims in SL.
"I still have no idea WTF people see in it anymore."
As you've said, many don't even know that OpenSim exists. Others have heard of OpenSim a while ago, but not recently, and they assume it's dead, just like many people assume SL has been dead since 2008/2009 due to lack of media coverage. Little do they know that OpenSim is about 80% as active as Second Life and has over four times the land area.
And of course, then there are those who have invested too much time and money into SL to leave so easily. But there's no reason to not take a look at OpenSim next to SL.
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That doesn't speak for SL, does it?
I mean, I myself love small events where you can actually use the local chat as a chat without loads of people spamming it with gestures.
But big events with 50, 60 or more avatars happen on special occasions. And if they really suffer from server lag, that's because the region server underneath the sim is unfit for the task. Hypergrid International Expo has recently changed from an OSCC-style around-the-sim-corners build with one sim for the stage and three for the audience to a single sim because you can throw such a lot at region servers nowadays.
Just recently, I was at a Woodstock-inspired peace festival. At least half the German OpenSim scene was there plus some more avatars from elsewhere. We were over 55 avatars at times. No problems. Some avatars took long to rez, but you have that all the time with today's unoptimised hi-poly avatars.
A bit less than two years ago, Juno modelled at a fashion show. There were over 60 avatars. Nobody had expected that many avatars, and I think they didn't even have seats for all of them. No problems again, only the viewer FPS tanked when she turned towards where the other models were stashed away. Granted, the sim as it was during the fashion show had no scripts running except for the chairs for the audience, and it was purpose-built for this event instead of being a big, multi-purpose var.
"Like our grid has a large portion of the SL Burning Man community, and they love having huge areas to build on."
Not to mention that you can probably pay less for a 4x4 var in OpenSim than for a parcel with a few hundred prims in SL.
"I still have no idea WTF people see in it anymore."
As you've said, many don't even know that OpenSim exists. Others have heard of OpenSim a while ago, but not recently, and they assume it's dead, just like many people assume SL has been dead since 2008/2009 due to lack of media coverage. Little do they know that OpenSim is about 80% as active as Second Life and has over four times the land area.
And of course, then there are those who have invested too much time and money into SL to leave so easily. But there's no reason to not take a look at OpenSim next to SL.
I understand what you're saying, Hyacinth, I've been in Open Sim now for about 5 maybe 6 years, but I was in SL prior to that and before that AOL and SL and OS are definitely a step up from that old dinosaur, but that said, I have given up worrying about numbers and ranks because it just isn't important to me. What is important is that when people visit they enjoy their visit and want to return, and that new grid members will enjoy their membership and their region and create and design beautiful things for folks to visit and enjoy. With all the ugliness in real life it's nice to have a place where we can create beautiful and peaceful places, where we can dream a dream and watch it come to be even if it is only virtual there is a level of contentment in that. I very much enjoy my time spent in Open Sim but what I love is when other's visit and enjoy what I've made, that makes it worth it all.
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I agree on the lag in sl, when I was in utherverse before opensim I used to have 75 people in my club. And yes it was pushing the lag.
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Then one needs to put prices on their items. Sell them in a marketplace, or don't share at all. There are always options.
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I love Johnny Cash's Ragged Old Flag. Whenever I put US flags up around my grid, I make the texture a little beat up. Our country takes a lot of wrong turns sometimes, but I am proud of our flag. It's kind of beat up, bruised and misused (like me.. haha) but still keeps on truckin'. :)
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There are 2 items in LBSA Plaza that are painted in PBR most all see them as grey. The ones with slightly older viewers.
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Well, I already won the primary, because we have two seats, and two candidates. In the general, only one Republican signed up. And our district pretty consistently goes 65% democrat. And I am charming as hell. I will win. Everyone is doomed! lol
I have the advantage too, that I live down in the lower part of the ward that most of the candidates are scared to walk around. This is my neighborhood, and my peeps. So I am focusing on just visiting my neighbors and encouraging them to vote. They got someone from the hood going to the State House. And I actually do care. :)
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I have the advantage too, that I live down in the lower part of the ward that most of the candidates are scared to walk around. This is my neighborhood, and my peeps. So I am focusing on just visiting my neighbors and encouraging them to vote. They got someone from the hood going to the State House. And I actually do care. :)
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I am running as a democrat. But I'm actually more of a libertarian. So is the current representative that I would be replacing, because she is retiring. She came to New Hampshire as a Free-Stater, which is a libertarian group that moved en-masse to New Hampshire. Basically my guiding principle is to just interfere in individual and families lives as little as possible. "F*** off, and let people be" . Conventional wisdom says I should clean up that slogan. But this is New Hampshire. We're rough around the edges. haha
NH has almost no state taxes at all. So it's like we all have to come up with creative ways to solve problems, and not rely on a big budget and social programs to fix everything. So it's probably different than most people are envisioning.
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NH has almost no state taxes at all. So it's like we all have to come up with creative ways to solve problems, and not rely on a big budget and social programs to fix everything. So it's probably different than most people are envisioning.
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So far my only complaint is just the normal first release growing pains. It has problems unrelated to PBR, like crashing consistently on teleports. That happened with 6.6.17 when they first released it, then a couple weeks later they had cleaned up those issues. Otherwise the NON-PBR stuff does not look strange, or any of the other fears I have seen expressed. The mirror effect is pretty neat, but less ambitious than hoped. It has a slow refresh rate. I saw a mirror hack for Firestorm way back a few years ago, that did a beautiful mirror surface in realtime.
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In response to stuff below, and the ongoing...controversy. I know for a fact that many of the people involved in the last big kerfluffle a few weeks ago, who expressed a lot of negativity toward LGBT people. They have ZERO problem with fantasy-roleplaying getting the stuffins banged out of them as a sh*male (derogatory term for transgender woman, they get all their information from porn apparently) or being a virtual lesbian or whatever. I am not anyone's psychologist, priest or rabbi. I can't help anyone with their inner conflicts, and kudos to them if they are working this all out. I just wish everyone would chill out, and leave people the f*** alone.
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You want to integrate something like a "rainbow flag flag" in GridPuppy?
Sounds like a good idea to me, and I'm curious especially about the implementation in-world.
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Sounds like a good idea to me, and I'm curious especially about the implementation in-world.
Actually the idea of a little rainbow flag, or some kind of indication that a place is LGBT welcoming.. That can be done anywhere, even here. That would be more of a social campaign, asking region, grid and club owners to make a commitment and clear that all are welcome, and bullying is not allowed.
Maybe put a little rainbow heart in the corner of their place profile pic. It would just take a lot of people asking venue owners to do that, if they are so inclined.
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Maybe put a little rainbow heart in the corner of their place profile pic. It would just take a lot of people asking venue owners to do that, if they are so inclined.
I have just been letting gridpuppy sit for the time being. With all the fighting that had been going on, I felt like it would be best to let things simmer down for a while. Otherwise it would all just spill over to the new thing. I'd really like to get started with it, over the summer on a really positive footing. Does that make sense? It just seems like a bad idea to do something, simply because everyone is angry.
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I already mad one for gridpuppy. It is just a database of regions, and a visual display with the parcel picture, name and description, and the address. gridpuppy was intended for everyone, even the jerks. If we wanted to do a more narrowly focused one, for a smaller number of places, it would be easy enough.
The beacon itself would just periodically transmit the parcel information to the server and update the listing. A very easy script.
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The beacon itself would just periodically transmit the parcel information to the server and update the listing. A very easy script.
I think that LGBT+ friendly places include about every region. A narrow-focused HG board would have only the LGBT+ focused places. Perhaps we could also have a note card giver with embedded LMs for the friendly places.
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A beacon for queer friendly regions only would be nice! In my opinion it shouldn't count visitors for 2 reasons: 1st, save CPU time, 2nd not needed when the list has no ranking. I would like it if the list is periodically randomized. Then all regions have the same chance to be found and not only the popular ones.
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