Jupiter Rowland @JupiterRowland

Have you even read the sim description?

Dismayland is not Lbsa Plaza and doesn't want to be Lbsa Plaza. Spax Orion banned avatars wearing mesh ABSOLUTELY DELIBERATELY with the VERY INTENTION to make their travels unpleasant. This is a DESIGN FEATURE. All the way to the perma-ban if you do try to enter the sim wearing mesh.

Complaining that you can't go to Dismayland with a mesh avatar is like complaining that Savvy or Wright Plaza doesn't offer the newest, hottest Legacy stuff or that people go naked at Stark.

This could have two reasons.

One, you can't DMCA OpenSim as a whole in one go. You'd have to DMCA everyone who spreads your stolen stuff individually. Since you can't do that, you'd have to DMCA the grids. And OpenSim has got thousands of these, only a dozen or two of which are either idealistic enough to keep illegal content out or have spent at least the last 10 years under a rock. Have fun filing over 3,000 DMCA claims.

Two, probably even more importantly, you have to prove that you've created what has been stolen from you, otherwise anyone could claim something was stolen from them.

There were actual DMCA threats looming over OpenSim in 2015, causing loads of freebie store owners to rip out everything they offered and replaced it with Linda Kellie, just to keep their stores open while keeping the grids they were on from being shut down by the authorities. But the most we actually got was an open letter from Maitreya whose entire in-world shop was circulating in OpenSim as full-perm freebies back then. Some food for thought.

And Gloebit has to happen to be online, of course.

So you have "creators" in OpenSim who whine about freebie store owners god-moding their "creations" and hanging them up in their own stores full-perm.

Only that these "creators" themselves have god-moded post-2019 Sacrarium boutique content, renamed it and replaced the box art.

The Sacrarium "creators", in turn, have illegally exported that content from Second Life. Regardless of how they've acquired it there in the first place.

And the Second Life "creators" have either exploited art students or broken the license of free 3-D downloads. AFAIK, some have even stolen their "creations" from other SL users.

The hilarity.

"The Permission code has changed on a few occasions in core also so how a permission was supposed to be is not always how it winds up."

The best example for this would be that boxes inherit certain permission restrictions from their contents now. A while ago, a full-perm box was always actually full-perm, regardless of the permissions of its contents. This is no longer the case. And so you have lots of sales boxes in older stores that are supposed to be copied but can't be because the permissions of the contents are too limited. Shop owners have to go around and fix loads of boxes and their contents, and they often don't even know they have to.

"On the God Mode again, Grids come and go like clockwork. If I as the owner of the Arielle avatar purchase something from a creator, the license is to the living entity behind Arielle. Since Arielle is on multiple grids, I use the content I have purchased for her where she has an account. Should one of the grids she has an account on close up then I feel I have a right to transfer that content to her on another grid as I own the license, not Arielle as she is just my visual representative."

If OpenSim development had enough capacity, I'd suggest a new feature, namely linking avatars together to one identity. The most basic variant of this would allow you to transfer no-transfer content to your alts. The most advanced one would sync the inventories, at least optionally except for friends and groups. Both cases would also exclude no-export content.

If payware looks like from pre-mesh times, it usually is from pre-mesh times. Put into commercial stores in the early days of Kitely or DigiWorldz when that stuff was still fairly state-of-the-art, and the only competition was the first wave of Linda Kellie creations from 2007/2008.

In most cases, these creators haven't logged into OpenSim in a decade, probably not even into SL, so that they don't even know that their stuff is hopelessly outdated now. They may even have forgotten that they've still got a shop or a whole sim in OpenSim with items for sale, especially if they don't have to pay rent. Bonus points if even the shopping sim owner hasn't logged in in years, so nobody has ever taken into consideration clearing that shop.

If some of them are still active, they should really do a reality check. First, premium mesh clothes in SL are cheaper in real-life money than their layer-and-prim creations. Second, these premium mesh clothes are available in OpenSim for free.

Lastly, yes, there are still a few OpenSim users who refuse to use any mesh. But they've still got a lot of pre-mesh stuff to choose from. Yes, that stuff isn't easy to find, especially if it wasn't made by Linda Kellie. But all this pre-mesh payware isn't actually any easier to find.

Now, layer clothes do have their use since the arrival of BoM, particularly for anything skin-tight. Underwear, lingerie, hosiery, swimwear, latex... Legal BoM bodies like Ruth2 v4 or the BoM version of RuthToo RC#3 depend on them, and besides, they don't clip through anything you wear over them.

But still, you can get more of this for free than you'll probably ever need. Legally even. No need to spend money on it.

Lastly, I guess that many in-world payware vendors don't work anymore anyway because nobody has been around to reset their scripts since at least 2013.

There's no way one could ever make a living on selling stuff in OpenSim like some manage to make a living on selling stuff in Second Life.

First, in SL, you have to pay for just about everything anyway. Making it on only freebies is so difficult it's a challenge. In OpenSim, you can do just about everything without ever paying a penny.

Second, OpenSim has a whole lot fewer users than SL. Even if everyone had money, and everything cost money, you wouldn't make nearly as much.

Third, of these users, only a tiny fraction has in-world money to begin with. They're probably fewer than those who are fully convinced that "Never buy in OpenSim" is an official OpenSim slogan.

Fourth, you'd have to compete with professionally-produced, almost-industrial-grade, premium luxury content stolen from SL.

And fifth, even if you can pull that off quality-wise, someone will god-mode or out-right copybot your stuff and put it into their own freebie store free and no-transfer, renamed and declared their own original creation. And then someone else will god-mode that and offer it free and full-perm.

That said, sometimes god-mode is a blessing, especially for freebies whose creators are no longer around.

For example, something is wrong with a freebie, e.g. it's glow-in-the-dark full-bright because whoever made it had always set their viewer permanently to midday. But that someone hasn't logged in in forever or doesn't respond otherwise or takes any bug report as an ad-hominem attack. And that item is no-modify. Then you can throw it away and try to find an adequate replacement. Or you can god-mode it, turn full-bright off and have something actually useful.

Or you want or have to move to another grid. Of course, you want to take your stuff with you. But some of it is no-transfer, it's very dear to you, and it isn't available anymore anywhere because the only shop that offered it has disappeared. You can either leave it behind and carry on without ever being able to use it again. Or you can god-mode it, make it full-perm for personal use and share it with your new avatar.

Or something is actually supposed to be full-perm, maybe even as per the license notecard inside the item or the sales box. But there's only one shop left offering it. And the owner of that shop decided to make all items in that shop no-transfer so that nobody could build a competing freebie sim from items from this shop. So this item is only available no-transfer although it should be full-perm. Again, you have the choice: Either leave it as it is and watch it vanish when that shop disappears. Or god-mode it back to full-perm and share it.

I've actually thought about which grids would be the best for complete newbies as opposed to SL converts. SL converts are easy to handle. All they need in the beginning is a grid with a not-too-convoluted freebie sim chock-full of SL stuff where they can get things for their avatars before they even learn how to Hypergrid.

But on-boarding complete newbies is difficult, especially in comparison with SL. From the top of my head, I only know two grids with landing sims that have instruction panels for newbies while most other grids are geared towards either experienced SL users or people from other OpenSim grids, if they even let new avatars in, that is.

OSgrid has a nifty sim that was made for newbies to walk through and learn the ropes. It's still online, but it's no longer the place where new avatars rez for the first time, and it isn't even listed on OSW. Instead, new avatars land in the middle of Lbsa Plaza.

Lbsa Plaza does have these panels, too. But new avatars don't land right in front of them. In fact, they can't even see them clearly enough from where they're standing. And if you even need instructions on how to make your avatar walk, then having to walk to get to these instructions is dumb.

Also, yes, Lbsa Plaza always has a bunch of avatars around the landing point. But I dare say that the avatars at SL landing sims who aren't tagged as mentors are more informative and helpful than who you usually come across at Lbsa Plaza.

The other grid with a useful place for newbies is 3rd Rock Grid. It has a large building with a newbie course to the right and an avatar freebies section with quite a bit of exclusive stuff to the left, so you can theoretically gear up your avatar right after learning the ropes.

However, it does not give an impression of being the place where new avatars land. And if they have to teleport there manually, it's useless as a newbie starting ground. Besides, I don't know how active 3rd Rock Grid's staff is, just in case someone has a question.

By the way, another topic worth thinking and talking about is what to offer complete newbies for their avatars. Classic layer clothes on the system body are easier to handle, but so outdated that you can be lucky if people only pity you. Mesh from SL looks better, but it has a steep learning curve unless it comes in the shape of complete avatars, pre-alpha'd mesh body and all.

By the way: If taken literally, the wording of the Plaza rules would justify kicking and banning a female avatar because her underwear is visible under her skirt. No matter how long the skirt is. No matter if it's layer or mesh underwear. No matter if the avatar in question is wearing sheer nylon tights over the underwear (which is absolutely possible with layer clothes).

And I know two cases of people who were actually sanctioned for going commando, one kind of cross-dressing male avatar who was banned, one female avatar who was only kicked. So if "No Private Parts" extends to under skirts, the logical conclusion is that so does "No Exposed Underwear".

Someone from OSgrid told me that this is non-sense, and underwear visible to upskirt cammers does not break the rules. And most female avatars wear skirts or dresses all the time, and fewer than a dozen ever wear more than underwear underneath, all without being kicked from the Plazas.

But maybe there's a first time for everything.

If Resurgence was professionally hosted on an actual server, and it was still possible for amateurs to breach into the data centre and the machine and acquire full admin rights on Windows, then something is wrong with the hosting company.

I'm on the edge of saying that something is fundamentally wrong with Windows as an operating system for Internet servers. But I think only one out of maybe 15 grids is not running on Windows, and I refuse to believe that an operating system is so inherently unsafe and still regularly exposed to the Internet by professionals.

I still have to shudder thinking about those thousands of DreamGrids running on personal Windows computers behind provider-issued, customer-grade routers. Either they're even more unsafe, or if not, that'd say a lot about the hosting company.

Still, the backups are a key issue. DreamGrid is mainly intended for computers at home where you can stick a USB pen drive into the machine and copy the backups automatically created by DreamGrid onto that drive. I think if I said that securing DreamGrid backups on an external drive at home when the grid runs in a data centre is a bit more difficult, that'd be an understatement.

Nonetheless, if you start over, this will have to be done. It won't save your grid from being wiped, but you can always restore it, for it'll save your backups from being wiped.

This clearly wasn't an attack through OpenSim, using a script. This rather reads like someone having gained access to the underlying Windows system with full admin rights. (Resurgence was a DreamGrid, and DreamGrid is Windows-only.)

They could easily have deleted the whole DreamGrid. Then they might have snooped around on the machine, looking for backups outside the DreamGrid install, but still on the same machine, and deleted them as well.

Or they could simply have quick-formatted all drives in the machine, one by one, not only wiping out the grid but absolutely everything on the computer.

If we mean the same ones, they were made by Linda Kellie back in the day. I think a few of her sims had them out in the open; Freebie Mall 2.0 did. I could check in which box they are.

Zadaroo used to be a website which conserved creations by Linda Kellie from pre-mesh/pre-Clutterfly times as downloads, still under the same free licenses which Linda had put them under.

This included so-called OARs, i.e. archives of entire sims which you can install on a grid. LK Designs (the very early one with the rectangular street layout, the landing on the parking lot, the spa, the big blue house in the north etc.). Freebie Mall 2.0 (the one with the mall with the three half-cylindrical glass roofs, the revolving door and the food court). Boardwalk (the one with the sandy ground and the wooden boardwalk with shops and rides and a Ferris wheel etc.). Avatar Center (the one with the body of water in the middle, blue shops for the gents in the west, pink shops for the ladies in the west). And so on.

It also included textures for skins, for eyes, for hair, for classic layer clothes, for plants and for other objects as well as sculptmaps from which one could make sculpt prims which were quite popular before there was mesh.

It doesn't make it possible to re-create everything she has made. Especially the clothing texture boxes only contain examples as PNG or Targa files and neither all her own variants nor Photoshop or GIMP files. But it does facilitate things which would only be possible by extracting textures from in-world things otherwise.

(Need an explanation about Linda Kellie? That is, beyond the "she's a fucking bitch, and everything that could possibly have been made be her or one of her alts must be boycotted, no matter what" propaganda?)

There should be more legitimately open-source stuff with raw textures available. That'd make this easier.

My greyscale self had to switch to Ada Radius eyes for this reason.

Reminds me, I've got the raw textures of my skin. I've always wanted to edit them to greyscale.

With a suit and hat, I may pass for a Scotland Yard Inspector from some Edgar Wallace film.

(Cue 1960s psychedelic jazz)

Lemme sum this up for your convenience.

Female avatar under 7 feet = maybe kid.
Female avatar under 6 feet = definitely kid.
Male avatar under 7 feet = kid.
Petite female avatar = kid.
Female avatar less shapely than an unmodified, out-of-the-box Athena shape = kid.
No fish lips on a female avatar = kid.
No long locks flowing down your shoulders if your avatar is female = kid.
Neither long rocker hair nor an undercut if your avatar is male = kid.
Blond, but neither Barbie nor Pamela Anderson nor Rutger Hauer = kid.
Skin tone lighter than the average Tamilnadu citizen = kid.
Male avatar with neither beard nor perma-stubble = kid.
Nude male avatar whose erect dick is smaller than his lower arm = kid.
Freckles = kid.
Wearing pink, and it isn't Biatchi-branded = kid.
Wearing purple, and it isn't gothic = kid.
Wearing bright colours in general = kid.
Female avatar wearing flat shoes = kid.

Tune in next time when I tell you how not to look like a geezer.

Monentes Jewelry has some, hand-made by Marianna Monentes herself even.

https://opensimworld.com/hop/84210

Glad I could help.

Sounds like something from AnKaBi Welcome. https://opensimworld.com/hop/91472

Needless to say that Juno was excited and went and picked that skirt up.

For such a long skirt, even the Ruth2 v4 variant has surprisingly little clipping. We haven't observed any when she was standing or walking. Only more extreme leg positions cause clipping. Some of it occurs on the lower legs, that's practically inevitable with long skirts. And a little occurs at the waistband when she kicks up a leg. I guess that's the price you have to pay for a skirt made without a reliable devkit that doesn't stand off the belly, that can be worn with a bare midriff. And I guess it can be fixed with a custom precision alpha mask.

Also, it's a bit of a pity that the skirt is one-sided with no visible inner surface. This already becomes apparent when she walks, more so when she dances.

Still, she'll keep the skirt. We'll test how well it works with boots next.

For botanical stuff in general, I always recommend Encantada. Granted, it doesn't have that particularly waterlily cluster because it only offers creations by the sim owner herself.