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you have a valid point, some people want this but there constantly finding things to pick at. As a grid owner i have to learn to pick my battles now, sometimes its better to stay neutral but if i cant, offer advice on what could have been done better. Do i agree that some bans are unnecessary, absolutely! we all have to be willing to communicate. However some things can be justified when it gets to far like threats and whatnot.
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I haven't used the block once on osw, I simply I guess let them block me if they feel the need. Most people.though are to quick to use it instead of communicating.
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Notorious trolls don't block you.

And even if they do, they unblock you at times, just to troll you again immediately afterwards and then block you again so you can't defend yourself.

Not to mention that they all have a whole pile of unused, blank-profile, blank-slate sock puppet accounts on OSW which they'll use once to attack someone and then never again.
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I haven't, either. I've learned to pick my battles and someone behaving like a five year old throwing mud is just not worth the energy, nor do I have any illusion I can make them see reason and change their ways. So as soon as I see it's that type of post I don't even read it. Plenty of better, more fun, more positive things on the site to read.
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Sometimes defending something can look like something else to others.
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Sometimes those who do not stand for something, will fall for anything. Some of the kindest people, for instance, may choose to block me simply because I angrily defended someone who was being bullied in disgusting ways. I will not live my life at war 24 hours a day, but I shall always speak my mind, and let my morals and what I know to be the right thing to say or do, be done. May everyone find peace and happiness and some day see all of opensim as one big, sometimes dysfunctional family, who does our best to support each other!
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"Sometimes those who do not stand for something, will fall for anything." That is a huge worry, especially in our times. O know people often don't want to be placed in positions where they have to take sides, where they have to condemn and maybe wish to delay taking a stand. But sometimes it's better to make a firm decision to stand on the side of right and do a little condemning, to go out and vote, to take a stand so that justice and liberty, democracy, and yes, even those who are marginalised and genuine victims of being bullied.

Tyrants and demagogues take over when too many do not stand for anything, or who hide themselves away and try to tell themselves that it's not their fight. One day it could well be their fight, but it might by then be too late, and anyone who could have been around to stand with them are long gone.

I may not agree with a lot of things, e.g. religion or differences of political opinion, but I will always stand in defence of people's right to practice a religion or to express differing political opinions so long as they do not transgress another person's humanity or worth as a human. That's the point when I hit the block button.
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What do you mean?
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for example, if you get into a debate, discussion or whatever, if someone doesn't like your views they hit the block button.
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I experience this all the time here...
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We have to build people up and help them ignore the toxicity so they will stay.
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Yes! Just like you did with me when you came to my grid to visit then to accuse me of copying you. That really built me up!! If I do not create it myself I purchase it. I had to show you receipts to prove I had the content legally! This IS toxic and can cause people to leave! I appreciate though in your post you wish to thank creators that is kind. Oh Btw that OAR you said you purchased, at this website
https://opensim.carrd.co/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR0bLkV... , it still is not available to buy but as soon as it is I will buy it to see if that rickshaw is in it. I am curious now where you got it since you did visit me two weeks prior to accusing me of copying. And that Japanese OAR has never been for sale that I am aware of at this site you showed me. I will quote you, "I guess defending something can look like something else to others."
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to reiterate i wasn't accusing you of anything, I simply asked where you got it and told you where I got mine. I had the oar up for a few days so you could see it but not sure you got that hint :). in the end you and I are all good but i wanted to make it clear i wasn't accusing you of anything, after i saw yours it made me wonder about mine and where it originally came from.
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These were the words spoken to me and I quote you, " I'm not prying by no means but was thinking I wonder for the region I have who rip off who lol or if they are same person." I cleaned up a few typos but it is easy to not understand this fully.

I still have that conversation if you need clarification what you said to me, I can send it to you, it hurt me enough that I commented it here on your post because clearly you do not see what you are doing. I admire the love you want to spread, and glad to see you posting about it, but it is really important to carry that out in private too. If we were all good here I would not be commenting.
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if you have an issue with me regarding this topic, feel free to private message me. your taking my words out of context. I was simply pointing out to you I have the same item and wondered who originally created it. I am sorry if it came off as something else.
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You were at my place on April 11, then two weeks later you contacted me to ask where I got my things, perhaps you took a copy? You said here in your post you take things and place them about, I agree that differences between people should be kept private, but when I read this

(So in conclusion, I would like to say thank you to all creators, builders, scripters, and etc, because without all of you, my regions wouldn't look as good as they do. I may take things and place them and put them together but the credits go to the creators, builders and scripters.) I thought maybe this is what happened that you in fact copied me. The purchased kits I have I see some parts about, I guess that is how it can happen.
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I have been at your places a few times, I dont illegally copy peoples creations that is very wrong. Nor do I use copybot viewers and there also banned in my grid. I only grab was is set for copy or buy. Its disheartening you assume I did that to one of your acquired items. The item in question was purchased a few years ago included in an oar on that site i showed you. It was purchased for the grid by the previous owner, when I took it over I acquired said oars.

The region the item is on that you have I have only been there once or twice that i recall. If I went there a second time it was to double check i had the same item.
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well said, i saw a recent post that just made me feel so sad and angry at the same time. the words that were used so hurtful. Everyone has something in there lives but it should never be used against them.
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It breaks my heart to see such animosity on this site. There is no reason for it. None of us are perfect and everyone is a unique human being. No one deserves to be treated badly and I will never understand how anyone can be so mean to another person. It brings tears to see such ugliness in such beautiful people. Make Love! Not War! is my new mantra,,, though the saying has been around a while now.
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there isn't but sadly people thing there is or they find a reason. I have not blocked one person on this site, some have blocked me for no reason but when did we stop communicating.
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I did think amber used to be around, i cant see her profile anymore which is sad. I really enjoyed her and her builds. what a shame she would say something like this.
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I agree on the lag in sl, when I was in utherverse before opensim I used to have 75 people in my club. And yes it was pushing the lag.
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I have to agree with what your saying, a lot of times in plaza people would get banned for unjustified reasons. In other grids its either your avatars to short or your website doesn't comply with whatever.
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I dont understand why they banned you, but instead of saying your not interested in LGBT communication , it would have been better to say sorry im straight or im not into women.
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Read others posts - they ALL hate and cannot believe to everyone who is not from their pride! And hate is NOT from straight peoples, hate is from LGBTQ+ pride against this who is NOT changed gender.
Really in bible god fire sodom and gomor because HATE and RAPE against straight visitors.... Nothing new last 2000 years:(
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Because refuse to be "This daddy sweet LGBT sex toy"... EASY!
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what makes you think it was all about lgbt?
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May be aliens or my hate mind?
How many times to say - I HAVE SAVED CHAT!!!

And Please LGBTQ+=/%& etc activists to read and think more.
YES i will not go to judje in court someone about pervert mind! But.....

BE POLITE TO NON LGBT peoples!
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I totally agree with what your saying, the new petite avatars now days tend to make it borderline, but i never assume, i always ask. im short too and if there is a child gate script it gets me lol.
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I understand all of the post but is unclear if child avatars are banned in your grid or not, im all for the bann to be honest it just isnt clear if it pertains to your grid. Not everyone who is short or petiet is a child avi, that i agree with.
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thank you! couldnt have done it without darci and lilly
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thank you, i cant wait to reveal the rest.
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what we did was split them up, some on smart suspend and some on smart boot. you could have another issue causing it, wish i could have been more help. your welcome nonetheless
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It was just worth the try, and at some point I may try again. But right now, going to focus on what we have going, we have a nice server fortunately, and it's doing a good job.

Just wanted to test all that out, and you did help a lot, actually, you gave me some good pointers!
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Roll back versions of fs and that will solve your crashing problem, a note has been sent to fred a week ago regarding that issue. As far as tp board goes are you saying it doesn't work at all? if that is the case it could be the dg version your using. explain more on w hat you mean when you say they dont reset. if you get the white screen sometimes, we all get that. are you using smart suspend or smart boot?
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I'm using smart boot. And I mean not the white board, but the board shows the links, but there's nothing to click .. its 'dead'.

Some work normally, some don't.

How far back should I roll back the FS :) I just now got the newest to see if that would help. It was crashing before that, with my older one. Thanks for the advice!

I am on the very latest DG version too.
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the latest dg has crashing issues at least for us it did, for fs all you have to do is roll back one. have you tried resetting the tp boards or rezzing a new one, i have found sometimes those fix it. we used to use 100% smart boot, but we had teleporting issues as well. we didn't find the exact cause but a few things we assumed was, dg version, needed more ram, something an avatar was wearing.
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I will double check all of this again, thank you Mistress, helps to know it isnt just E doing this :)

I will replace the tp boards first and then work down the line ...
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been there so many times lol, let me know how it goes.
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Looks like most issues are FS related and not DG at least for me with this.

Having better luck with the tp boards now :)

Thank you for your help with this! Really appreciate it.
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your welcome, new version of fs is a pain for dg users.
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Yes really seems to be!
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I believe the new version of firestorm has issues, i rolled back and havent seen any since. However I have one region being built that has things mysteriously disappear including terrain. Replaced a few things here and there.
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High latency or loss of data packets between the client and server can result in items not being displayed correctly or disappearing.
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I cant imagine considering its the same items, but they just poof from the region. i think its something in the region causing it or just opensim being opensim or whatever or dg lol. so far all is good in the region.
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I think it is more likely the owner having way to many assets. Keep in mind it all has to rez not just fetch up. Also badly created meshes may never rez.
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so far everything seems to rez okay, but yea its built by others on a test region owned by one of my members and she has a lot of assests in her invent so could be.
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I have a ton of assets, and on the land I try to keep it within reason. I know that when I visit other grids if they have lots of mesh buildings they rez super slow but it all depends too on how the mesh is created. Scripts are another thing to look at on land to make sure you don't have bad scripts about.
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That is a good looking women right there. You have a nice summer day as well.
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sex huds that dont use poseballs would be nice, so you could use them in any region. sl has some but alas are code is not like there's so its an no go. ive even seen an avatar carry another while walking.
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There was a popular kiss and hug hud in SL that I would love to see on opensim. Is that the one you were speaking of, Mistress?
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Yes, which I believe I have in my inventory somewhere. With this in hand, the project does speed up considerably. Thank you for the reminder!
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I'll see what I can do, though this is a bit of a larger scope project than I was looking to commit to right this moment. That being said, it's on my to-do list and I'll be sure to post it when it's ready for pickup!
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I wasn't implying or imposing on you, i was just stating more or less been trying to get this in os for a couple of years. its too big of a project for one person. a creator in sl has one but he is to busy to come to os to try it. no need to do this big of a project. :)
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As Spax was mentioning, the functionality essentially exists at the moment; it just becomes a matter of modifying the existing code and including some new functionality into it. I'll work on this when I can and post an update soon!
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In new version of firestorm, is there a way to turn pbr off? I have found that when i updated my teleport board and visitors board do not show the regions list or visitors list.
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I have seen that too... adjust the surface transparency on the face.. this solved the issue for me.
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how do you do that?
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Right click into Edit.
Texture Tab.
Select surface (top left check box option).
Click / highlighting the face/surface of the prim/mesh.
Adjust the transparency for desired effect.
*I hope this helps.
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that wasn't going to work for me but ty for trying
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It gets stranger and stranger.

I'm at Virtual Beach now, using Firestorm 7.1.9. I can see the visitors list with no problems. Nice black and blue now, not so washed out anymore. Also, I've just updated the regions list which I can see listing regions as expected.

So I can't even reproduce your issue. And I don't think I'm one of the lucky few with a perfect Firestorm 7 system.

I mean, I could try again with the Cool VL Viewer and see what happens, but that wouldn't lead to anything useful.
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guess ill have to figure out how to fix it on my end lol
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PBR itself only happens if there's PBR content. And no, you can't switch the rendering engine back to how Firestorm 6 behaved.

As for the boards, this does sound strange. Normally, the behaviour of such boards shouldn't change. But if you've got two boards with probably fully independently developed scripts underneath, and they both act up the same way, it sounds like we'll have quite a number of scripts to adapt and then an even larger number of scripted boards to update.

I mean, Firestorm 7 has only just been rolled out a few days ago. It hasn't been tested against everything in OpenSim yet. So we might be in for a few more surprises, and the Firestorm team might be in for a few more bug reports. But I hope this can be sorted out in-world.

I think I should travel around and check a few boards out there.
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i reverted back and everything is working again like it should
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