Pagane @Pagane

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In modern society, it has become fashionable to develop a huge amount of projects financed by government funds, religious organizations, NGOs and private sponsors.
You need an idea, a team and of course a sponsor. You apply and if you're convincing enough you get paid (we're talking real money, one of the projects got 100,000 Euros to do something like nothing) to develop... for example:
The world's first and only 3D model of the monument to world arrogance and stupidity.
You hire a SIM, team and so on.
It's time to show results, and of course you need to demonstrate how successful your project is. Of course the best way is to be number 1 or at least in the top 10 in the world ranking....
No way? HAHAHAHA - just look at the enthusiasm of the pack that claims we are preventing them from working!

I stop, I am sickened by the audacity of the people who killed OpenSIM to steal money on several fake projects...
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Yes dear, this is what you want! Are you forget what you write last days?
Go and read......
https://opensimworld.com/post/108249
https://opensimworld.com/post/108176
https://opensimworld.com/post/108261
I only make your dreams real!
This is YOUR dream wife -> 2,5m high, 250kg weight and may sit only in the pickup trailer!!! Oh yes, and clothes size is....... sorry, only bodypaint!
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So, this is an avatar, right? In that case I can port the shape to my Xara avis, and hopefully still use the clothes rigged for that body.

Xara is a LaraX clone designed by Essensual.
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this is Jessica..... and "clothes" is only bodypaint - work in ALL body:)
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I understand. See what I've highlighted here? If your avatar has such a file, I can transfer that to my avi and make her look huge! Hope you don't mind if I do so later. :)

https://gyazo.com/1f9ab9bf79ae503051dfb1d6edf4c8ae
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you not understand WHY i make this.... sorry, i cannot help...
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What?!?! I think it's awesome! Never mind...

(Minutes later, ETA)

Ok I Think I get it now. Haha...
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Lets explain better to all what is racism.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism
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Pagane, no offense, but there's a very good reason why wikipedia isn't accepted a reliable source in any serious conversation.

Citing wikipedia only diminishes any point you're trying to make.
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You're talking about a scripted system that omits avatars of a certain height. Now if you're going with the assumption that all persons choosing an avatar that falls under the "child gate" height is an actual RL Little Person then what you're actually accusing someone of is discrimination or perhaps ableism. Racism is a particular discrimation levied at persons with particular skin tones or cultural characteristics or behaviours by persons who wrongly feel skin tones or cultural aspects of a person can be lesser than any other skin tone or cultural aspect. It is most often systemic or fueled by systems/governments/establishments where prejudice meets power. Those with the power try to wrongfully oppress those who are perceived as having less power.
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Modern racism is somethin other. Like this what you invite here. Abuse with science and technology .... read what write the great scientists.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_racism
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LOL don't hurt yourself with that stretch. There is not a SINGLE theorist or reference in that entire page that falls into what you are categorizing as racism. Stop co-opting the term. Here is a better summary: https://library.harvard.edu/confronting-anti-black-racism/...
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OSW says: This member has no regions yet.....

what you set? where? in your PRIMARY account?
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My residence is right there on my page. Otherwise, you imply that if I am not a region OWNER, I cannot weigh in here? But it is one of my favorites: I don't like what you say so I am going to challenge something about your profile to try to make your point illegitimate. What part of my post is illegitimate?
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LOL good try, bud.
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Sorry, but as it turns out, the rules are being enforced by groups with blatantly racist and pedophile criteria. The woman in OpenSIM must be a two-meter mare with a kilo of silicone in each teat, a pumped up curvy ass and a perky hip. Those are the rules.
Your little sister is unacceptable!!!
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When the eBody Reborn hype started, I unironically expected Athena to be demoted to teen and Athena Petite to be declared pre-teen at best.
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in real world i'm 63 year 1,54m high and 48kg woman............... oh yes, have big boobs and butt but no silicone lips.....
How to compare this with "Kids gates" created from pseudo moralists?
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This is difference between SHEEPS and wolves! Sheep's silent wait until slaughter them one by one and they silently line up for the knife ...
Thanks to all sheeps:(
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The truth is that there is NO right answer!
- If you scan visitors and process their data you may have deadly GDPR issues….
- If you have a script that measures height, you are racist and even worse, you limit the rights of sick people. In many race's, 1.60m is a tall and athletic man, and a 1.50m woman is too tall to find a husband! Does it make sense to discuss segregation towards the "little people" (dwarfs)? Regarding the size of the breasts, I think in any country in the world you will be condemned instantly for the remark that my breasts are small! And don't even think about looking at my ass!!! This is also the reason I am against the well-known racist and segregationist "overwatch sentry". I'm not sure which is more dangerous "overwatch sentry" or child avatars without swimsuits.....
- If you try to limit some mesh bodies (PHNX, Athena Flat or similar) you will soon find out that it doesn't work and is easy bypassed.
- You can stalk like a wild beast and ban any ass who looks like a child to you or a woman who forgot to put on huge silicone implants... If they don't condemn you for racism and segregation, at least you will loose the visitors.

Is there an acceptable solution?
YES!
If your SIM is listed as "General" you have every right to immediately kick out anyone who tries to talk about sex, have sex, or even walk around naked or without underwear (like me)! Kids avatars is not problem CLOTHED and not speak for sex. You may kick out "kids" for bad moral also.

Where's the problem..... Very soon you will become popular, will go to #1 in OSW and.... Will be trashed and slandered and banned (like Dark Hearts).
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Hello my friend! good to see you! Thank you for taking the time to write a very polite response showing your opinion on this matter. As I have pointed out to others, I want to remind you that this post is not about my opinions or my morals....it is about the LAW. I will gladly discuss LAW....but really do not care to debate opinions. I respect that your opinions are different than mine, thats ok. I am not trying to change anyone, but I am offering a logical legal reason for why children are not allowed on my grid.
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Are you not understant LAW answer? "NO right answer!"
Do what you want in your SIM, only not scream loud against ..... kids, size, boobs.... etc.... Kick someone who you not like, WITHOUT explain about small size or body or any other. Kick who you not like and all is ok! This is your SIM. NO RIGHT RULES! Every rule is against some law....
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let's keep it civil my friend.
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Maybe an idea would be that anyone within a certain height range could shown as a cloud to other residents, or at least those who choose to not see little people.
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That, actually, would solve a lot of issues. Not all of them (what about the legal issues surrounding snapshots of kid avatars in people's cache or on their screen?), but a lot of them.
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"what about the legal issues surrounding snapshots of kid avatars in people's cache or on their screen?"
The laws afaik are not that it is illegal to have pictures of child avatars but only child avatars in sex or erotic poses. That is how SL differentiates it. In my years here in Opensim I rarely see adults in erotic poses but don't I have ever seen an underage avatar in one. SL is a different story. I think certain people are making mountains out of molehills. But yeah, a viewer that would block the view of any child avatar would also include those in a sexual pose.
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"I think certain people are making mountains out of molehills." I tend to agree -I think that the risk is exaggerated and the risk is overblown. Not zero, and I don't fault ANYONE who doesn't want to take that risky (why should they?) but people aren't arrested over being in SL -they won't be arrested over anything involving child avatars in OS
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very creative idea!
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They no need of help, they needs new administrator.
They need someone with enough free time (which I don't have) and the desire to take on this job and "clean out the Augean stables"*.
And that someone should document the things he did. Names, passwords, archives, access, changes, source code ... (and all such things that I do not do for my home grid).

The truth is that 3rd rock grid needs a proposal for a new administrator and maybe hosting.
Maybe someone would agree to host and maintain ....
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Look mommy i catch this mouse before 5 months!
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After today reports from some users about problems with Dreamgrid and data loss i try to help because i see this problem already.
Two months ago I tried to warn about the fatal incompatibility of Firestorm 6.6.17 (70368) with operating system drivers and the subsequent total destruction of the OpenSIM server database. Naturally, NOBODY believed me and I received a fair amount of shit and slop at my address. Well... I was talking about THAT problem. It's already there for everyone who forgot to do a full backup, not just OAR....

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Limited Complexity 9 minutes ago
I have had my suspicions, for years, that you were some kind of Griefer, @Pagane... thank you for finally confirming them
Limited Complexity 17 minutes ago
Threatening to attack/delete my Grid? nice... you are not only toxic, but also a self-confessed griefer
Pagane 27 minutes ago
How to try to help to peoples like you?????????????????????? Again problem is not your stupid sick brains, ok problem is named Pagane and she delete your grids... THANK YOU !
Limited Complexity 29 minutes ago
I never said it was related to Dreamgrid... making pointless drama again, @Pagane ?
Pagane 31 minutes ago
problem is Firestorm incompatibility with new Win/Linux driver system. Persists only for users with big inventory and god access. When EDIT object Firestorm loose indexes where and how to write changes and destroy all inventory. THIS IS NOT RELATED TO DREAMGRID!!!
Limited Complexity 35 minutes ago
I created an alt, on my Dreamgrid installation, to see if the issue persists, the alt has no problems or errors, only my main account
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Do i will help again?
THANK YOU!
Throw two more shits and some more stones:(
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Well said and accurately described how hater trolls operate.
BUT... don't you think it's too late to save OpenSIM? Look around - it's only the gang of trolls here. Normal people who wanted to do something good long ago left or created their own worlds and are not interested in society...
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I'm inworld most days and I'm currently part of a team organizing an event which will have 20+ people onstage, plus a huge backstage group of helpers. Everyone is nice. Not everyone has a high opinion of all the others, not everyone shares the same views, but they're all respectful to each other, cheerful, and enthusiastic about reaching our shared goal. I agree there are a lot of aimless people in the world, real and virtual. Aimlessness, like selfishness, brings out the worst in a person's character. I think the Box and the few troll who like to dominate it will never outweigh the good that is being done every day in opensim.
Optimism is like love and luck. If you reach out to it, it will reach out to you.
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I immediately notice that this is a broken piece of the ass of an asset I created in a previous life when I was Leonardo!
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you say "join us?!" WHERE in hop:80.......... yes, we all is rabbits and not understand:)
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I don't understand people who get vaccinated against covid 19 to go on holiday in the tropics, but don't vaccinate their child against measles or meningitis......
Anti-vaxxers have done more harm than good! The reason dangerous vaccines are being sold at insane prices are precisely these organizations created by pharmaceutical companies to promote their dangerous junk.
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P.S. I am not vaccinated against covid 19, but I am vaccinated with all other normal vaccines. My kids too.
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On my sixth, never had it, likely never will. No long covid for me. Been in a room with 7 people, five who got it.
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Never had the vaccine, had covid for like 6 hours and a bit tired for a week after, no long covid for me either. Have never had it again. Yet I hear of people who have had the vaccine and boosters coming down with Covid several times. It may not be the vaccines protecting you at all could just be your natural immune system working.
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It saves you from dying. Almost everyone who has had the shots has a very mild case, and there are very few hospitalizations. Compare that to the tens of millions who died from a lack of vaccination.
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last 2 versions of FS have lots of errors with saving assets after edit. Depending of client and server OS and OpenSIM server version errors is from unpleasant like your up to fatal.
Try to make this same with Debian client connected to SQLITE based Linux OpenSIM server and will get total crash and destroy all server....
I simple downgrade to FS 6.6.14 and wait bug fix:(
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I will do what I love!
I will tell the truth in the eyes!
And I will be all that I am!
Take your pills, cure your Alzheimer's and hate me and ban me for a cure :)
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Do you notice we are talking to ourselves? None of the drama queens pooped here?
I thank them for blocking us and we can discuss without their hysterical attacks :)
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lol yes this is truth, with the exception of Copper, who lacks reading comprehension and performs cowardly double hit and runs. Being emotionally disturbed, tends to induce cowardice on a massive scale.

Added, I think your typo suits their posts and actions perfectly!
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Great! No more clothes tonight:)
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Send them kisses and thanks! They are lonely and that's why they are so mean and hateful :)
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I hope one day you will return. Kiss
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Are you not know about "cow girl" dreams of pseudo puritan society here?
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well, i wasn't trying to start anything, just letting some people that were looking for these items, where i found them.
BUT, i see your point, someone, I am sure will get their panties in a knot over the jacket. Thanx Pagane.
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One of the great things about the cowgirl is that she is always on top of everything. Get it? On top?

OK, I'll shut up now.
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rofl a Big & Rich music fan are we?
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I don't know about music, but I do like men who are big and rich. :)
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the song is "save a horse, ride a cowboy" the duo Big & Rich
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I'm sure it's a good song, but will never beat my favorite, Horsey! Keep Your Tail Up (Keep the sun out of my eyes).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf3YJIwmG4
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A pioneer spirit, a special [American] brand of courage. The cowgirl faces life head on, lives by her own lights, and makes no excuses. Cowgirls take stands, they speak up. They defend things they hold dear.” The courageous Fellows truly possess the cowgirl spirit. I guess i don't know what Pagane is trying to stir up. But this is the meaning of a "cowgirl".
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