Suzi_Avonside @Suzi_Avonside

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Wedi bod gwmpas am sbel... Ers 2010 yn achos OSG


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Any separation is illusory. We are the same people, and Opensim isn't a different world, just an extension of our very real world.
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While separation between the virtual and real worlds may be seen as illusory, boundaries still play a crucial role in maintaining the integrity and purpose of different spaces. Just as we might choose different environments for work, relaxation, or socializing in real life, Opensim can be a space where people choose to focus on creativity, community, and personal well-being, free from the divisiveness of real-world issues.
The posts are not just views against Donald Trump these posts are to create a rise and obtain likes. Dorena commented (then removed it) saying the likes on her post indicate her posts are well received then she gets attacked for those very views which continues the hate. Which divides us. I agree, with you it is obvious what the goal is here to me since Dorena cannot vote in USA, this is purely for a rise and likes. With no real concern for the opensim community or who it harms.
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Firstly, there is no separation between the supposed virtual and real worlds: they are merely different aspects of the same. Dorena does not post the things she does for likes or to derive vicarious pleasure. Nothing she posts will cause any harm to anyone, unless they're oversensitive Trump supporters, and I won't shed any tears over them! No, Dorena's concerns go way beyond the Opensim 'community' to the wider community of the whole world, which will be a much nastier and more dangerous place if the likes of Trump are allowed anywhere near the levers of power.
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Seriously, Opensim is a blank canvas, and can be used for whatever any creator wishes, good or evil or even just bland and neutral. Politics is only ever only just below the surface, and to many of us it's an important subject. Those who are not interested, or who just don't want to be involved are free to not involve themselves. No one is twisting your arm and forcing you to read those posts. Just ignore them, just as I habitually ignore The Box most of the time.
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Trump is just a sick criminal, who has been convicted of rape. By rights this pervert should be in prison for a very long time. Hopefully he'll get his just deserts.

No one who considers themselves a decent person should be supporting Trump. If they do, they are as bad as him.
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He hasn't been convicted of rape. The only raping is by the liberal media which is as dishonest as a day is long.
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And what exactly is the 'intended purpose' of OpenSimulator? It's a bit like a blank piece of paper.
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What a stupid comment! The left isn't the problem. Look at the world the way it is and it's obvious even to the blind that it is the far-right that is in the ascendant right now, in Germany, France, Bulgaria, the USA the UK, where we're at the moment seeing the far-right rioting in the streets. There is one thing that you can be assured of: the left is acutely aware of where fascism comes from, it's capitalism under stress.
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Only those who watch the fake news believe that.
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"Anything I Don't Like is Fake News" - a kindergarten primer guide to politics ;)
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Indeed. It seems that any understanding is also at kindergarten level too. The paradox is though that it is those who decry what they call fake news are those who are more likely victims of the real thing disseminated by those who influence them.

Again, Hanah Arendt reminds us:

"The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth, and truth be defamed as lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world - and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end - is being destroyed."
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Fake news happens when articles are written as opinion pieces, not a laying out of the facts for one to come to their conclusions.
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What utter bollocks! And what happened even before WWII had ended? The UK got a socialist government that brought in social changes such as the National Health Service which delivered healthcare free at the point of need, paid for from taxation. A massive building programme of social housing was commenced that ultimately meant that more than a third of the UK's population lived in decent, affordable housing, much of industry was nationalised and operated in the interests of the people and not the rich.

Fortunately there are countries that refute the utter garbage you write Pagane, look at the Nordic countries, liberal democracies with high social standards and an extremely high scores in the human development index where you'll find the happiest people in the world with some of the lowest social and economic inequalities in the world.
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Dear my silly Suzi, before write total shits and massmedia fake news:
1. Look on map where is Easten Europe.... This is NOT UK province or Swiss north:)
2. Don't missunderstand Left orriented UK and Swiss governments with Socialism.
3. Go to vote against Trump and will feel in own ass what is SOCIALISM. Believe me - will hurt:)
P.S. Better read history from some other source, not from liberal-democrats promotion movies.
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The socialist governments of yesteryear are not the ones that we have today. They are much more extreme present day than they used to be.
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And where exactly are these extreme socialist governments?
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Look at any of the leaders that support the World Economic Forum and its progressively socialistic policies.
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Anyone who considers the WEF a 'socialist'organisation is a fucking idiot. It might seek to moderate the worst excesses of capitalism, but it's still an organisation of big powerful global corporations. Only the genuinely stupid would fall for the kind of conspiracy theory crap peddled by the far-right would believe that the WEF is in any way 'socialist'. The idea is fucking ludicrous!
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You'll own nothing and be happy! Maybe you're being deluded by the mixed messages coming out of WEF.
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I pay little attention to non-state bodies like the WEF and even less to crackpot conspiracy theorists who big up crazy ideas such as such bodies dominating everything and the idiots who believe them.

I use my brain and my critical thinking skills, and whilst I can't say that I have total clarity about many things the one thing I know I'm not is deluded.

The problem is that so many people, particularly those in the USA don't have the first fucking clue what socialism actually is.
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Go to North Korea and will explore most famous socialist government in world!
Sucess!
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Clearly you're an idiot Pagane, no one except the far-right would consider the totalitarian regime in the DPRK as socialist.
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Oh yes, and your wild hate is only because of anty LGBTQ+ sign in my profile?
I put this sign because HATE from LGBTQ+ against me!
Our god fire Sodom and Gomor also against HATE! Not because of sodomy or any other!
STOP TO HATE peoples!
We other >90% not want to change gender and your hate only distant you from world.
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No dear. I'm born in socialist gov. and live 30 year in socialism. Learn in school theory and make exams (with excelent result). I know what is truth about real socialism!
You is only screaming lamer. And i cannot help you...
Western society continue to be 50-100 years behind us and you must build your socialism and then pay the bill for your naivety and stupidity!
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Firstly, I am not your 'dear'. Secondly, you were NOT born under a socialist government, just under a totaitarian government that pretended to be socialist - have you ever read George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' ?
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We deal in reality. How anyone, anywhere can stand by and do nothing in the face of the spread of hate is beyond me. Those who do not stand up to evil are responsible for its triumph.
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Why ever not? The virtual world is only an extension of the real world and any separation is arbitrary and false. A fascist is still a fascist even if they have a furry crocodile avatar.
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People need reminding time and time again how evil this man is. Ignoring wannabe tyrants and demogogues, pretending they don't exist, or aren't as bad as they say they are or that reasonable, rational opinion determines is a recipe for disaster.
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shhh he's gonna be America's next President Not the Giggler Kamala sit back and watch.
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We may not have a vote about who becomes the head of state of the USA, who wields immense power that is often projected around the world to the detriment of everyone else in it. But we do therefor have an absolute right to express an opinion on something that is likely to affect us.
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We can agree to disagree, I guess.
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I see nothing 'hate filled' by Dorena here. Nothing Dorena posts is hate filled.
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It's clear that this post by Dorena was meant to be satire, but it's equally clear that it was going to trigger the Trumpistas and fascist fellow travellers. To those who want to hide away and try to avoid taking a side, consider this quote from Hannah Arendt "The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil."

Anyone considering Dorena's post 'inflammatory' had best take a step back in contemplation: that was entirely your misapprehension. If you disagreed you could just have ignored it. On it's own it's hardly contentious: many in the USA, both Republican and Democrat, hope to high heaven that this vulgar demagogue is denied the presidency, and moreover, he loses, not only the election, but also his liberty.

Progressive thinkers and lovers of liberty the world over fervently hopes that Trump is not elected. He's an affront to human decency.
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Just an FYI: That quote by Hannah Arendt reminds me of what someone told me a while back. When the presidency election comes around, if people decide not to vote at all, it gives the other side more victory. Because if someone were to vote democrat and decided not to vote, the republicans would get more votes than or vice versa. So those of you who are choosing not to vote, please reconsider as it will unbalance the scales.
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“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

John Stuart Mill
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And what do you advocate Pagane? Some form of Fascism? Liberal democracy certainly has its faults, but as Churchill noted, it seems an awful way of running things until you consider the alternatives.
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Please make difference between DEMOCRACY and liberal democracy!!!
Liberal democracy is new, modern name of socialism or moderm fachism, and is not related to real democracy!
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"The compulsion to do good is an innate American trait. Only North Americans seem to believe that they always should, may, and actually can choose somebody with whom to share their blessings. Ultimately this attitude leads to bombing people into the acceptance of gifts."
Ivan Illich.
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And Pagane seems to be only capable of writing nonsense. If she thinks that she knows what socialism is, she is deluded. As Rosa Luxemburg reminded us, "There is no democracy without socialism, and no socialism without democracy." Though I suspect that Pagane, without realising it, along with all the other Trump lovers here, are quietly promoting fascism.

And, Pagane, I know exactly what was going on in all Soviet Bloc countries prior to 1989. It certainly wasn't socialism.
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Quietly? Hmmm....I have my foam ear plugs in and my ears are still ringing. ;)
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"Sometimes those who do not stand for something, will fall for anything." That is a huge worry, especially in our times. O know people often don't want to be placed in positions where they have to take sides, where they have to condemn and maybe wish to delay taking a stand. But sometimes it's better to make a firm decision to stand on the side of right and do a little condemning, to go out and vote, to take a stand so that justice and liberty, democracy, and yes, even those who are marginalised and genuine victims of being bullied.

Tyrants and demagogues take over when too many do not stand for anything, or who hide themselves away and try to tell themselves that it's not their fight. One day it could well be their fight, but it might by then be too late, and anyone who could have been around to stand with them are long gone.

I may not agree with a lot of things, e.g. religion or differences of political opinion, but I will always stand in defence of people's right to practice a religion or to express differing political opinions so long as they do not transgress another person's humanity or worth as a human. That's the point when I hit the block button.
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I think interest in HGB is because the interest of Maria Korolov in Opensim has waned and the website is now used to promote news of things like VR and AI, which is fine, but the site is a shadow of its former self when all things Opensim were discussed there. Comments there were at least strictly but fairly moderated, something OSW could learn from. The main barrier to Opensim core being under active development is the lack of developers. Up until around 2015 there were quite a large number of very active developers involved in the project and new stable versions of the software were being released several times a year. It's interesting looking at the release history of the Diva Distro. There was a point where there were several releases a year, but now we're lucky if we get a new release every two years.
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Nothing annoys me about Opensim, though some things do frustrate me at times, usually those who use these worlds, but that's a given wherever there are people, and is even worse in RL. Opensim doesn't behave like Second Life simply because it isn't Second Life. That might sound a little trite, but it's just the way it is. Nowadays Opensim is far closer to Second Life in the way it works than it ever was in the past. Personally I had hoped that by now that Opensim would be light years beyond Second Life, but things change and whilst that might have been possible in the earlier days when Opensim had a number of developers, that isn't the case now, when there is only one developer working on core Opensim. The issue of voice has been covered previously, and I'm not about to enter that fray except to say that there are projects that could be developed, but no one is prepared to finance them... Ditto some of the capabilities of the viewer that don't work in Opensim. There have been various attempts to create an Opensim only viewer, but once again, they have been individual projects, and whilst Firestorm still allows access to Opnesim, the FS team have difficulties attracting Opensim developers, especially those with Linux skills. Viewers that also allow access to Second Life contain a lot of code that is not only unneeded for Opensim, but actually impede operations in Opensim. There is no easy way around this issue, as all mainsteam viewers are optimised for Second Life, which is to be expected, given that the numbers of users on Second Life dwarf the numbers who use Opensim.

The physics engine that affects the way an avatar walks is an ever ongoing thing. When I started in Opensim there was only really ODE physics running on X Engine. Avatars could walk, and run etc, but vehicles were not exactly well supported, and we had the grand choice between one of Sara Kline's golf carts, or Neb's Racer and maybe one or two other options. Evidently it had been decided, but I don't know who, that Opensim wouldn't have vehicles... Then, around 2014 a survey showed that of everything, the most desired thing was vehicles that worked, and so work started on Bullet physics and later of course we got ubODE and Y Engine, which brings vehicle script behaviour closer to that of vehicles in Second Life. As far as steps are concerned, since the change to Bullet required a different, and considerably bigger avatar capsule, walking up and down stairs and steps became a little problematic. I've had to adjust some of my builds to accommodate the physics changes, but in terns of getting your avatar to walk up stairs and steps smoothly I've found it necessary to include an invisible prim that allows the avatar to glide up and down steps.

Most who come from Second Life usually don't stay because they find Opensim quite empty of avatars, and many don't grasp that Opensim is a confederation of grids, and not one grid like SL. Opensim also runs on servers quite literally located all over the globe rather than in just a single datacentre somewhere in the USA as is the case with Second Life. Things don't work like Second Life here, because it isn't Second Life. Most who come here aren't builders either, but we have far more who don't build nowadays than in the past where virtually everyone built and also ran their own regions, if not their own standalones or even separate worlds, like Dorena has done since quite early in in Opensim history.

The great thing about Opensim is that it's opensource, so if there is a feature you want there is nothing stopping you creating it, all you need are the skills. That applies to a voice module as it does to developing a dedicated viewer solely for Opensim, or even a completely different feature that you think might be good. Let's not forget that's how we got things like Varregions, the 4096 bug crushed, the tide module, or even an inworld currency module.
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My thoughts exactly! Well said! Can't complain about something, and wait for people to create it.
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"Most who come from Second Life usually don't stay because they find Opensim quite empty of avatars, and many don't grasp that Opensim is a confederation of grids, and not one grid like SL."

A common mistake amongst those who have just gotten into touch with something decentralised and federated is that they take the lighthouse instance for the whole thing. In OpenSim's case, they think OSgrid is the OpenSim grid.

Fresh SL converts in particular try to navigate OpenSim or even just OSgrid just like they navigate SL. Via categories. No wonder they hardly find anything because hardly any sim in OSgrid is filed into one of these categories and therefore directly accessible in the viewer.

I kid you not, there are absolute SL veterans who have never in their lives used the map to teleport. They don't even know you can do that, much less how. Truth be told, though: Even though I've never been in SL, it took me a while to figure out how to teleport and especially Hypergrid using the map because there was nothing and nobody who could have told me how.

Which takes us to the onboarding issue which comes on top of an even steeper learning curve than in SL. But that's another story and shall be told another time.
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But as the great German writer Thomas Mann reminds us, 'Toleration becomes a crime when applied to evil'. Something to ponder on in these tense political times.
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I've just logged out and read Xpletive's mega rant on his profile. He doesn't seem to like me for some reason :) I'd call that a bonus, and despite what he says, I do not hate him. I tend not to waste my energy on such emotions on people like him. I don't like him, and that's about it.

I suppose one great advantage is that now he isn't any longer able to post his hate filled diatribes. The guy is an idiot, that much is clear .
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If he hadn't insulted me personally in his profile, I wouldn't have hatred...
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He's also insulted me, but I am not going to hate him. He's not worth wasting any emotions on.
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Comes from my gut, not from my head...
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Is there something wrong with the region? I can't HG teleport there from Speculoos World or OSGrid. :(
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