GlennXpletive @GlennXpletive

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Still Chat Banned by "Inclusive Weak minded Libtards that allow a fucking idiot like Suzie Avoside who cannot even write in English, to profess her fucking retarded love for old fat dirtbag idiot Karl Marx. Fuck You.NOT A Builder ANYMORE of many products both in-world and the internet. Left Secondlife after 14 years. Now DONE Helping you weak minded Libtards..


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Outstanding post as always, Jupiter.
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Damn dude, you are a magnet of bad luck and awesome Oldsmobiles! Glad to know you took care of those commie scumbags properly! hi5 and Hope the new year brings you some much needed rest and relaxation.
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High 5's BTW. haha!
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I dunno if they are commies, but lazy, scumbags that prey on sick, and/or weak. Yes. haha
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Welcome back and glad to hear you are ok and LOVE the 72 Cutlass.
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Excellent collection! Thank you!
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Aw well I am sure there are other beaches. and we cannot appeal to every person. But I am glad to hear that you think it's a nice place.
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What she meant was your description says humans only which is understandable when it comes to say a horse, dog avatars etc but what about nekos? basically humans with cat-tail and ears?
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I have seen some wear those cat ear things for their hair.
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Please refrain from Word Salad, or use a translator.
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I disagree, as I have not seen any of the alphabet trying to do so. I would like this discussion to remain open as long as it provides productive input in all facets, because this issue does not just apply to the beach, it applies to all regions and their situations.

The focus of the discussion has been is it lack of common sense, flagrant arrogant disregard of rule or flat out laziness, for people to visit such places that have made it quite clear ahead of their visit of what the region is about. This is not an alphabet issue, it applies to all.
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Again, as a reminder, since constipated gyro heads seem to want to just post their emotionally disturbed, jealous and unproductive opinions, posts like that will be deleted.
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That has been an option I considered. Though it is unfair to create 2 hypergrid teleporters just because of having to parcel a seperate parcel.
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I do visit them in real life and anyone who has a camera and dressed, is escorted away. At least that is how it is in New Jersey.
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yea baby yeaaaa, now sit on my face.
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You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear, how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away

The other night dear, as I lay sleeping
I dreamed I held you in my arms
When I awoke, dear, I was mistaken
And I hung my head and cried

You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear, how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away

I'll always love you and make you happy
If you will only say the same
But if you leave me to love another
You'll regret it all some day

You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear, how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away

You told me once dear, you really loved me
And no one else dear, could come between
But now you've left me and love another
You have shattered all my dreams

You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear, how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
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Another common sign is the all too common "Giggles". No chick ever says "giggles" that is a dude assuming chicks say that and would be convinced that it's really a 12 yo girl when it really is a 70 year old decrepit, senile, senior citizen with snow covered prunes dangling.
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I text giggles a lot. I am all woman. lol "Giggles"
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Me too!! I can't say I really LIKE the word, but I'm at a loss for any suitably short alternatives. "LOL" has a sorta bawdy, uncultured sound to it. And "smiles" is just a totally different reaction altogether. "Chuckles" I suppose COULD work, but when I hear that, I always think of 'Chuckles the Clown', so that one is out. SO, a giggler I shall remain until someone can provide me with an acceptable replacement! :)
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As always, such a well written, perfectly stated description of the situation and potential solutions. I agree, that using a childgate may hamper quite alot of innocent visitors. So until a better solution is devised, manual would have to be the way.

No one faults the occasional visitors who are lagging. Though it is pretty obvious in the name, that being dressed for a ball, isn't the proper attire. Hence the question regarding laziness or lack of common sense. I always inform them after some time and only ban when it becomes apparent they are there to disregard. A good example is completely ignoring IMs and local chat. It seems to be prevalent in these times, that people feel entitled to ignore what they don't like to read or hear. So manners, are long gone. Sorry I still believe in acknowledgements and such words as thank you.

With that said, as well as others opinions, the only current solution is to continue manually. Though the one question was never really answered. Whether or not it is lack of common sense, flagrant disregard of rules or just laziness.

I think you, as well as others, may be right that it is a very small group possibly even just one with the intention of making a region look bad, ruin competition, jealousy or just downright checking to see if rules are enforced.

As for the Puritan types, I would suspect they lack I.Q. to visit such a named place and be so offended. Then again in this day and age, seems like every simpleton is offended by everything that isn't done or exists THEIR way and wants the world to bend and change for them no matter what the consequences. I blame their parents for raising such fragile, delicate and uneducated wastes of oxygen and food resources. Had they been raised right, they wouldn't be going to a place that is already offending them with it's name. Their career is limited to Troublemaker 24-7 and therapy attendee that comes with pampers, puppies and pacifiers along with crates of tissues for their issues so they can cry the seven seas.

Again, i sincerely appreciate such an in depth well thought out response to the situation and the pursuit of a solution Jupiter.
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To try and answer that one question: It depends on the behaviour.

Maybe they try to work around the barrier by wearing a ballgown. Maybe they believe that it's so very unlikely that someone wears something with "gown" in the name, especially on beach sims, that the word "gown" is not on the filter list, thus you won't be expelled for wearing one. The major sign for this is if they've actually tried to breach the barrier in the gown. A minor sign would be female avatars with BoM mesh bodies wearing old layer-plus-flexi-skirt ballgowns designed in the 2000s for the system body rather than the SL imports hanging in every more recent freebie store. The idea behind that would be that it's even less likely that these are on the filter list.

Or maybe it is a combination of laziness and lack of common sense. The kind of female avatar that always wears the same clothes, regardless of the situation. You know, the kind of female avatar that'll soon be seen at least by the dozen running around snow-covered Christmas sims in sandals with 10cm spike heels and sleeveless micro-mini dresses without tights. The female counterpart to the guy who goes to the nude beach in a black leather jacket. They always wear that, they love wearing that, and they can't be bothered to change.

Why a ballgown? Because these avatars refuse to wear these tiny club dresses that seem to make up 50% of all women's fashion SL imports. They don't like super-tight jeans, super-tight leggings and ripped jeans hot pants either. They have yet to find the four SL import boxes with long skirts/dresses that aren't ballgowns. And they will either probably never discover the rare sources for different clothes or, if they do, dislike them, too. So ballgowns as daily wear it is.

This is rather unlikely, though. Women will rarely only make one outfit for their avatars. They're more likely to use them as dress-up dolls, so they would certainly have at least one outfit that's rather fit for the beach. Those who don't like "dressing up" and wear the exact self-same outfit for years are mostly men and a great deal of them. If you see a female avatar always wearing the same clothes everywhere, especially if it's a rather low-effort outfit, it's likely that there's a real-life man behind the avatar.

I could also suspect that they did actually just come from a ball-like event and decided to go check out your sim together because they needed something to do after the ball. But did any such event occur recently, an event that justifies or even requires wearing a ballgown? Besides, if such an event takes place, how many of the women will actually wear a ballgown? 30% 40% maybe? That makes it even more unlikely that a 100% ballgown-wearing group comes from such an event.

But ignorance has always played a key role in occurrences on sims that allow, encourage or even require nudity. Typical situation on Stark Islands, especially past 13:00 grid time: An avatar arrives at a Stark party for the first time. Stays there and waits for everyone's clothes to rez. Not easy with 10-20 avatars around. Notices that it takes longer than usual for attachments on certain avatars to rez. Realises that there aren't, in fact, any attachments that'd have to rez on these avatars, and that these avatars are actually naked. In public. At a party, even, amongst other avatars. Leaves without saying a word, deeply disturbed and disgusted.

The Adult rating was originally created as a warning for prudish visitors that they may encounter fully nude avatars, if not even public sexual activity in a given place. It may still work as such in Second Life, but it either does no longer in OpenSim or has never done so in the first place. People have gotten used to Adult only meaning no kids allowed, even if it's on a perfectly clean sim that'd get away with a General rating, but the sim owner hates kids. And lots of grids actually allow for weakening the Adult rating to the point where all its liberties over Moderate or even General are taken away, and only the "no children" limitation is left. No wonder many people don't expect Adult things on Adult sims anymore and will protest against them.

However, it's even worse than that. You can plaster words like "nude" or "naked" all over your sim's advertisements and its name. People either can't be bothered to read that, even if it's in the sim's name. Or they believe, it's only a name or something to spice up the description, literally nobody ever obeys dress codes in OpenSim anyway, and especially, nobody really ever gets naked in public in OpenSim, no matter where. Or both. And then you've got prudish and up-tight people entering a no-clothes-allowed-whatsoever nude beach (complete with signs on all entrances in-world), fully dressed in their streetwear, of course, and then freaking out over the sight of one naked avatar.

I still expect someone to sooner or later downrate a nude sim and write a scathing review in which they loudly complain about the naked avatars. Either they'd clearly show that they haven't even read the sim's name (evident if they demand the sim owners do something against all the naked avatars), or they'd be surprised that people actually DO go naked there.

I tend to believe that the only way of keeping people out who are both prudish and dumb is by naming a sim something with "BDSM" in it. But then you'll have to deliver, otherwise the BDSM fetishists will complain that the sim has got nothing to do with BDSM. This may be the reason why not exactly few Adult sims are BDSM-themed: Adult rating and Adult category in combination with "nude", "naked" and even "sex" in the name don't drive prudes away because they don't think any of this actually occurs on the sim.

So I believe the nudity barrier at Amoa serves well against those ignorants who don't even read sim names before teleporting there or who think it's just a name, and neither the name nor the description (if they've read it, that is) are backed by anything. They'd otherwise happily stride around the entire sim in streetwear, completely unaware that this IS actually a nude sim. Getting teleported back to the landing repeatedly when trying to enter the sim should get them to a) read the sim's name, b) read its description and/or the huge sign at the landing, c) accept it as a matter of fact and d) act accordingly.
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Agreed 100%. Stevie, you are a tough cookie and glad to know you don't tolerate this crap. So far, banning on landing is the current method and option. Though, in the works, as some have suggested, rings of fire, dropping shipping containers from 300m up that are physical as well as encased in a cylinder and blasted into orbit with booster rockets (Like i did in SL) is in the works. If they want to play with each others crusty old prunes (Since they are mostly 70 year old decrepid Joe Bidens) they should stay on Golden Sun where the sun always shines on their bald heads.
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I agree Pagane. Seems like every day in the news more and more being exposed as pedos. Thankfully Epstein dropped dead so we could have legal access to records and eye witnesses of who partaked, however it's the non celebs that are more prevalent and dangerous. But I do what I can to prevent it from this region. I don't back down from a fight, I always defend the children and I sure damn well don't take well to threats. I bring a nuclear arsenal to a gun fight. I have a brain, experience, courage and don't give a shit about what others think. Thus, the pedos only hope is to annoy me at best. I wish there were more real men in this world instead of fanny pack wearing, cheese munching mommy boys that cry, to help defend the children against these garbage people. But that's a whole different topic. Again, the question is, is this flagrant abuse of rules, lack of common sense or just plain retarded?
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lol GREAT!! Show it off at Amoa then. lol
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I completely understand agree. The ones that abuse that by standing there for an hour are more or less the ones in question. The common drive by visitor, is no problem. I always just contact them to remind them it is a nude beach. Some comply, some leave, and some reply letting me know abut rezzing. That is all good.
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That I believe. But is their life that mundane and empty, that all they can do is this?
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That's a question for a psychologist. But if you are asking me 'if' they are doing it, you are just one of many victims.
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I can agree on all points. And I do make a point of not including the travelers who stop by first time dressed and when rules read leave and sometimes return. That is common practice and tolerated unanimously across the grid. My reference is for the ones that stand there for 10, 20 60 minutes dressed on a landing point. But what you said overall is well stated. I think you are very correct with the observation being the rule pushers. I tend to think that is the case most experienced as of this time.
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Suzan, I appreciate that, and I am more or less referring to the ones that stand in a ball room gown for 15 minutes. A quick visit in and out is not something of an issue. It is the ones that have sometimes been there for hours in a ball room gown lol. But I appreciate your support understanding.
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Glenn, I think I've known Suzan for longer than you. Believe me when I say that if a sim is Adult-rated, she WILL go nude. Even if a sim is Moderate-rated, she'll test the water by going somewhat-but-not-quite-nude. Someone who AFAIK got kicked from an unjustifiedly Adult-rated blues club sim for public indecency will be the last person to visit Amoa deliberately clothed.
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Oh Jupiter I know that. I completely understand and agree. Suzan is not a target and I appreciate every one of her visits )).
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Us guys can barely get pants on the grid, let alone Lederhosen lol
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