I did all that, the odd thing was it did not exist. I finally forced it out using mysql workbench. That was the only way. Thank you for your help. I did find it was [av]menu but deleting that file failed to knock it out. So after a tons of queries finding the object in robust.fsassets and in robus.assets, but it had no name and did not exist! It was weird. I finally just deleted the rows, then switched to Xengine from Yengine which seemed to release the script state and let the item go. weird, just weird.
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