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To make things CLEAR!!
I am one of those who have been in Avitron and decided to change GRID. It's incredibly sad that other GRID owners punish us for being nice and trying to live up to being free to share and help. SOUL Grid is a GRID that I really enjoyed going to. I got kicked and banned for having avatars in other GRIDS. Specific Avitron. I am not hateful to anyone. I'm one of those who don't like that Avitronians aren't allowed to choose for themselves. I want freedom and bann me from other GRIDs won't help you. I have my shop in Santorini and everyone is welcome from other GRIDs who are open for the rest to come.
I have rules like everyone else.
I do this to share and have fun and meet people.
So never judge before you know...
I want to thank you all for the great support I have in this and all the support to keep Santorini alive...
Angie Owner
I am one of those who have been in Avitron and decided to change GRID. It's incredibly sad that other GRID owners punish us for being nice and trying to live up to being free to share and help. SOUL Grid is a GRID that I really enjoyed going to. I got kicked and banned for having avatars in other GRIDS. Specific Avitron. I am not hateful to anyone. I'm one of those who don't like that Avitronians aren't allowed to choose for themselves. I want freedom and bann me from other GRIDs won't help you. I have my shop in Santorini and everyone is welcome from other GRIDs who are open for the rest to come.
I have rules like everyone else.
I do this to share and have fun and meet people.
So never judge before you know...
I want to thank you all for the great support I have in this and all the support to keep Santorini alive...
Angie Owner
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Interesting to read all the comments. Some have misinterpreted my post. While others have understood me. I have left Avitron and have started again in another GRID to do what is the whole point of OPENSIMWORLD, that everyone has the freedom to choose and that it should be free.
Thanks for your different opinions. Now I'm closing the comment field. Spreading hate was not the intention of the post.
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Thanks for your different opinions. Now I'm closing the comment field. Spreading hate was not the intention of the post.
I am with "User name" on this. The grid owner has done a lot of people Dirty. I have had several Avitwats come to my sim and try to cause trouble. I do not just ban people willy-nilly. I have reasons for taking stern administrative actions.
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You mean Avitron is now again open to everyone? Or are you seriously complaining about you being unable to go to places that can't visit your grid? You call yourself avitronian, then stay there. Don't you think?
I was in Avitron once, now I'm in Osgrid, and I can tell you Avitron is not part of opensim, its owner aspires to a mini SL gaslighting his residents to pay for his expenses. Opensim is free for all.
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I was in Avitron once, now I'm in Osgrid, and I can tell you Avitron is not part of opensim, its owner aspires to a mini SL gaslighting his residents to pay for his expenses. Opensim is free for all.
Harleyjannys if you have read carefully before you wrote here. You should know that Iám not an Avitronian. I think SheaButter have understood me very well. Iám not an Avitronian.
That is in the past...I have my new SIM at another GRID and happy that you all are supporting me.
Opensim is free for all.. agree.
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That is in the past...I have my new SIM at another GRID and happy that you all are supporting me.
Opensim is free for all.. agree.
To make things clear. It was not the individual, who came from Avitron. But Avitron itself, the owner Alex, is the one who caused the problems. People from Avitron, were allowed to go to any region, copy and bring back to their grid. If I shopped at Avitron, I could not take it home. Alex had export of items set to off. So we banned all coming from Avitron. Plus there was some Avitron people going to grids, and taking back to Avitron and selling them. So again, was not the people, but the owner who caused problems for you all. Our regions welcome all, and share with all. I wish you much happiness and fun in your new grid. Soul Grid is an awesome place.
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You've mentioned two of the main gripes with AviTron. To make it more clearly:
One, AviTron had some very content-greedy users. Either not exactly few of them, or each of them had lots of alts. They came into grids and immediately started copybotting whole sims, one by one. When they were done with one sim, they went to the next one and copybotted it. They didn't shy away from teleporting to on-going events, not even greeting anyone and copybotting the event sim, along with the inventories of all present avatars. Some went as far as copybotting whole sims into OARs and installing them on their own land as "their own" builds.
Two, AviTron had and probably still has users who sell content for real money which they aren't allowed to sell. This includes commercial content stolen from Second Life, probably as well as original OpenSim creations which are under an explicitly non-commercial license and original OpenSim creations which they weren't even allowed to obtain.
Alex' reaction, in both cases, wasn't, "This is illegal on AviTron, I'm going to investigate," it was rather, "This is illegal on AviTron, thus, it doesn't happen."
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One, AviTron had some very content-greedy users. Either not exactly few of them, or each of them had lots of alts. They came into grids and immediately started copybotting whole sims, one by one. When they were done with one sim, they went to the next one and copybotted it. They didn't shy away from teleporting to on-going events, not even greeting anyone and copybotting the event sim, along with the inventories of all present avatars. Some went as far as copybotting whole sims into OARs and installing them on their own land as "their own" builds.
Two, AviTron had and probably still has users who sell content for real money which they aren't allowed to sell. This includes commercial content stolen from Second Life, probably as well as original OpenSim creations which are under an explicitly non-commercial license and original OpenSim creations which they weren't even allowed to obtain.
Alex' reaction, in both cases, wasn't, "This is illegal on AviTron, I'm going to investigate," it was rather, "This is illegal on AviTron, thus, it doesn't happen."
I agree with what you said, we have a few that came from Avitron grid. I wont ban people for having avatars in other grids including anyone from Avitron grid. Nor is Avitron grid banned either. I have a avatar in os grid as a backup.
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Well we didn't ban individual grids ever. But when we could not export from Avitron, and had many visit daily to ours copying everything up to the water. Fair is fair, if you know what I mean.
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