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What are your PLANS for WEDNESDAY? At the end of the HG Safari season, Thirza brings her TRAVELERS to Dismayland for a Scavenger HUNT in a KILL ZONE! What would you possibly expect in a place named like this? Bring your body armor just in case... it will not help.
Whether you come for the games, the shows, knowledge or just for the rides, there will be plenty of whimsical bedlam for all attendees. Bring your sense of humor and have a BLAST!
REMINDER: OpenSim SYSTEM standards are fairly enforced by script. Adult mesh avatars must meet SYSTEM not 'real world' standards. If your attachments are triggered, please change. Dismayland is WORTH the extra effort.
Whether you come for the games, the shows, knowledge or just for the rides, there will be plenty of whimsical bedlam for all attendees. Bring your sense of humor and have a BLAST!
REMINDER: OpenSim SYSTEM standards are fairly enforced by script. Adult mesh avatars must meet SYSTEM not 'real world' standards. If your attachments are triggered, please change. Dismayland is WORTH the extra effort.
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The DISMAY in Dismayland SELLS ITSELF! All complaints have been forwarded to the "Automated Apology System" outside of the Embassy. WARNING: Unwrapped candy is probably DANGEROUS!
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As we say in my country, it's not the one who wants to offend who offends, but the one who can... if you feel offended by my reasoned text, it's because deep down you know I'm right... but I don't want to continue exchanging words with you... as could be deduced from the last paragraph of the previous text, your software isn't going to waste a single clock cycle trying to ban me because I won't go there
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Ban is a harsh word, the park ranger enforces the standard it does not banish. We are both RIGHT Eva N. one side is ethical, the other is entitlement. The difference is that I will not complain when I come to your event, I will prepare accordingly. Dismayland might not be right for you. My animation traps will contort your precious avatar in ways that might hurt your delicate feelings. I let people know what they are getting into IN ADVANCE... being chided for it is part of the formula. Peace & LOVE!
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I just went to Dismayland with a 1.77m avatar and was kicked. Not only kicked but hard crashed out of OS.
Its a shame you need to resort to being nasty to people who are trying to discuss an issue with you.
Comments like these don't do you any favours -
"My animation traps will contort your precious avatar in ways that might hurt your delicate feelings. "
"We can always return the SYSTEM AVATAR ONLY rule. I bet you would enjoy that."
Whether you are using the classic default system avatar or a modern custom mesh body, both rely on the same core Second Life skeleton.
the standard in SL and OS is the skeleton, with many adjustments in height...there is no standard height.
Attachments are all rigged to this skeleton as is animesh.
Please point me also to where your chosen height is mentioned so people can actually "change" to your chosen height.
I see in your script, it is 1.6m
The only standard measure is the sliders for adjustments of the skeleton and if mine is set to 1.77m, so it is.
Your metric appears to be faulty.
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Its a shame you need to resort to being nasty to people who are trying to discuss an issue with you.
Comments like these don't do you any favours -
"My animation traps will contort your precious avatar in ways that might hurt your delicate feelings. "
"We can always return the SYSTEM AVATAR ONLY rule. I bet you would enjoy that."
Whether you are using the classic default system avatar or a modern custom mesh body, both rely on the same core Second Life skeleton.
the standard in SL and OS is the skeleton, with many adjustments in height...there is no standard height.
Attachments are all rigged to this skeleton as is animesh.
Please point me also to where your chosen height is mentioned so people can actually "change" to your chosen height.
I see in your script, it is 1.6m
The only standard measure is the sliders for adjustments of the skeleton and if mine is set to 1.77m, so it is.
Your metric appears to be faulty.
I want so badly to come but my motherboard died last month...seems like forever and until I can afford a new one, I am on a 12 year old Acer Beast that handles a lot of things I like to do, but sadly, I go inworld and even my own lands that no one experiences lag on I freeze an annoying amount. Most of the time, it takes Task Manager to get out. Have fun and everyone enjoy the visit! I know it is going to be a blast!
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JesterNPC speech engine releases this week. Be among the first to try out AXIS! Fans of the SimGEAR Light Club will want to be present for a special announcement as well!!
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I don't understand your response... it's just vague statements. If I edit my shape, it says I'm 1.77m tall, whether with a system avatar or a mesh avatar. If I create an object 1.77m tall, it matches my avatar (barefoot; I only wear 10cm heels for dancing). Isn't that valid test?
In a previous visit to one of your regions with HG Safari, you banned me, indicating that my height (using the same shape, which I've been using continuously for 18 months) was 1.57m. Yes, that's the result you get if you use the llGetAgentSize() function. The OpenSimulator website page detailing LSL functions leads directly to the SL page... it doesn't clarify much. What about this one: https://www.ossl.wiki/encyclopedia/llgetagentsize/? Isn't it valid? It's funny what it says: "The returned value is NOT in meters. To get the actual avatar height (counting shoes, and with a +/-3cm precision) you need to apply a factor of 1.125 (you can test this by changing a prim with llSetScale and compare the size)." And if I create an object with the example script... wow, it says my avatar is 1.77m tall... other height gauges I've found on the hypergrid also indicate that the avatar's height is 1.75-1.80m... who do we believe?
Besides that: have you seen my avatar? Except for the hair, it's the same shape, the same mesh, the same head as the last 18 months... I think those who see it don't think it looks childish or adolescent... and if anyone does, the problem is in their head, not the avatar.
Anyway, don't worry, you won't have to worry about banning me this time... it's your grid, your rules... accepted.
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In a previous visit to one of your regions with HG Safari, you banned me, indicating that my height (using the same shape, which I've been using continuously for 18 months) was 1.57m. Yes, that's the result you get if you use the llGetAgentSize() function. The OpenSimulator website page detailing LSL functions leads directly to the SL page... it doesn't clarify much. What about this one: https://www.ossl.wiki/encyclopedia/llgetagentsize/? Isn't it valid? It's funny what it says: "The returned value is NOT in meters. To get the actual avatar height (counting shoes, and with a +/-3cm precision) you need to apply a factor of 1.125 (you can test this by changing a prim with llSetScale and compare the size)." And if I create an object with the example script... wow, it says my avatar is 1.77m tall... other height gauges I've found on the hypergrid also indicate that the avatar's height is 1.75-1.80m... who do we believe?
Besides that: have you seen my avatar? Except for the hair, it's the same shape, the same mesh, the same head as the last 18 months... I think those who see it don't think it looks childish or adolescent... and if anyone does, the problem is in their head, not the avatar.
Anyway, don't worry, you won't have to worry about banning me this time... it's your grid, your rules... accepted.
DIRTY HELGA has been begging me for this: We can always return the SYSTEM AVATAR ONLY rule. I bet you would enjoy that... if you cannot wear what you want, nobody else should either. The intent is to keep out child appearances, avatars which are stretched out of the system spec can be processed as well and I am OK with those consequences. You are asking me to apply your REAL WORLD standards in a simulation which MOCKS THEM. Complain to the person who rigged your mesh, that is out of my control. Next season will require all guests to select an avatar to wear before they can enter the park. That solves the problem entirely. THANKS FOR THE POST BUMP!
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What are "OpenSim SYSTEM standards"? I haven't seen them defined anywhere. Can you tell me where to find them?
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You don't need to find them, they are baked in by the Opensim developers. Attachments which warp the avatar outside of the acceptable slider levels (the system standard) are flagged and processed as child or teen.
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Perhaps you could consider relaxing the rule just for the day Safari visits, since Eva is clearly an adult avatar and a longtime, well-known member of the Safari community. I know her personally, and she is certainly not there to cause trouble. She simply wants to enjoy and appreciate the world you have created.
You will be present during the visit, so the situation can easily be monitored in real time. I seriously doubt there would be any issues during an organized Safari event, and if there ever were, then you would know exactly who to remove or ban.
Making a one-day exception for an established Safarian does not mean you are required to change your rules permanently afterward. You invited Safari to visit your region, and I hope everyone can feel welcomed to share in the experience.
I wish I could attend myself.
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You will be present during the visit, so the situation can easily be monitored in real time. I seriously doubt there would be any issues during an organized Safari event, and if there ever were, then you would know exactly who to remove or ban.
Making a one-day exception for an established Safarian does not mean you are required to change your rules permanently afterward. You invited Safari to visit your region, and I hope everyone can feel welcomed to share in the experience.
I wish I could attend myself.
thanks for your kind words and your request to Spax, Star, but that's not what I'm trying to achieve... there are dozens of activities happening simultaneously, and it's just one more region among thousands... it was a reasoned expression of a problem that I wasn't the first to point out: the arbitrariness of certain "ethical" "rules!!!" which, as I've show, are based on faulty programming and therefore aren't correct.
But as I said, it's their grid, their rules... this way I can better prepare for the bike ride after the Never Riders :)
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But as I said, it's their grid, their rules... this way I can better prepare for the bike ride after the Never Riders :)
ENTITLEMENT: The Child Gate script logic freely available in the script section proves your mesh is outside of the standard, rather than asking me nicely in a private message if I would make an exception, you chose to blare a trumpet and I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THAT! Each time you post you are bumping this thread and AMPLIFYING THE DISMAYLAND BRAND FOR ME! This is GOLDEN! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!
SO PLEASE.... KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS! This is Dismayland, not happy land.... your scripts and your suitcase will not work here... exactly what do you think you are trying to achieve by stirring things up?
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SO PLEASE.... KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS! This is Dismayland, not happy land.... your scripts and your suitcase will not work here... exactly what do you think you are trying to achieve by stirring things up?
Sorry about your computer situation, I would gladly assist if I were in a situation to help. The park ranger software was written with objectives: it handles all restrictions, security, anti-cheat and the air-clutch system. It was not designed to toggle features with a flick of a switch. The scanner affects roughly 1 in 50 visitors which is an acceptable consequence of having a child free region. Originally it was a SYSTEM AVATAR ONLY rule. I lifted it FOR HGSafari 2 years ago, so long as the avatar does not warp the mesh beyond what the sliders allow, it will not be processed as a tiny, teen or child. I made the software friendlier so now it gives a 90 second warning to change and a 30 second alert before admin. I am working out a ways to make it even nicer but no matter what you do, someone will always complain when you enforce ethical personal boundaries.
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