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We will not ban reallife body sized avatars just because some people walk around here at 3 meters and imagine that they are children's avatars, No children's avatars are strictly forbidden here!! Anyone who commits character assassination or other insinuations in order to harm us must expect criminal consequences
Mean values of height, weight and BMI in women in Germany by age group
18 to 20 years 167.6 62.6 22.3
20 to 25 years 167.5 64.1 22.9
25 to 30 years 167.3 66 23.6
30 to 35 years 167.2 68.2 24.4
35 to 40 years 167.3 68.3 24.4
40 to 45 years 167.5 69.3 24.8
45 to 50 years 167.1 70.9 25.4
50 to 55 years 167.1 71 25.4
55 to 60 years 166.9 71.5 25.7
60 to 65 years 165.4 71.2 26.1
65 to 70 years 164.5 70.9 26.3
70 to 75 years 163.9 71 26.5
75 years and over 162.6 67.9 25.7
Total 165.8 69.2 25.2
Mean values of height, weight and BMI in women in Germany by age group
18 to 20 years 167.6 62.6 22.3
20 to 25 years 167.5 64.1 22.9
25 to 30 years 167.3 66 23.6
30 to 35 years 167.2 68.2 24.4
35 to 40 years 167.3 68.3 24.4
40 to 45 years 167.5 69.3 24.8
45 to 50 years 167.1 70.9 25.4
50 to 55 years 167.1 71 25.4
55 to 60 years 166.9 71.5 25.7
60 to 65 years 165.4 71.2 26.1
65 to 70 years 164.5 70.9 26.3
70 to 75 years 163.9 71 26.5
75 years and over 162.6 67.9 25.7
Total 165.8 69.2 25.2
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"Welcome to my world, won't you come on in? Miracles, I guess, still happen now and then..." or "Welcome to the jungle!"... In this virtual world in English, incomprehension and lack of kindness are the order of the day for us poor foreigners who make the effort to try to speak a language that is not ours... They often forget that we do not necessarily say in the right form what we think.... Please, British, Americans, Canadians, etc. have a little more patience with us and think about this before taking what we say the wrong way.
Thank you!
Bisous, Kuss, beso, petó, bacio, beijo, polobek, поцілунок, öpücük, キス, !! = kiss!! :-)
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Thank you!
Bisous, Kuss, beso, petó, bacio, beijo, polobek, поцілунок, öpücük, キス, !! = kiss!! :-)
Yes!! when I use it I see many errors in english and german translations with "our" translators... and yet I don't speak very well so I'm always affraid to use them with languages I don't know at all even as italian or spanish who are close to french... What about japanese ?.... I have a close japanese friend who had a lot of misunderstanding issues... only because of some English speakers too quickly angry...
BTW pay close attention not to confuse "I don't care" with "I don't mind" it can be as "simple" as that.....................
Kuss !
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BTW pay close attention not to confuse "I don't care" with "I don't mind" it can be as "simple" as that.....................
Kuss !
yes that happens but we have to use translators because otherwise we can't talk to many people and that wouldn't be nice either. Translators on websites also make mistakes but who knows, maybe AI will be able to fix that at some point :-)
kiss
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kiss
I try not to use translators a lot as I want to learn better english.... I know, I like to live dangerously ;-)
I use them to check a little and find lost words...
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I use them to check a little and find lost words...
grins, you like to live dangerously. but that's how I do it too and I've mostly gotten along well with it in SL, so it must work here too
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In SL we realize it a little less because given the larger population we can much more easily move from one environment to another without dwelling too much on bad reactions. In addition here we are on a kind of forum that amplifies everything, with many people who are very sensitive and who often seem to only look for trouble or appear offended
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SL is just a grid, of course everything is bigger here and there are a lot of people who have been banned in SL for causing trouble who are now here, so it's clear that there will be trouble here more often. We are friendly but if someone causes trouble then the friendliness is over ;)
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as I said in the other post, that's your opinion,I think you're just lacking attention and have to say something :-))
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Just now ask Google: "compare us to europe women weight"
Answer is:
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The average American female weighs 170.6lbs at 5'4”. European women weigh an average of 156lbs and just over 50% are deemed overweight.
Jan 14, 2021
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Sorry, this is not EU problem, in Europe men take wife/lover on seats inside car, not back in the truck!!!
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Answer is:
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The average American female weighs 170.6lbs at 5'4”. European women weigh an average of 156lbs and just over 50% are deemed overweight.
Jan 14, 2021
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Sorry, this is not EU problem, in Europe men take wife/lover on seats inside car, not back in the truck!!!
Ok I am safe then. I'm usually around that height. Mind you I don't really care because some just make entirely too much uproar over child avatars. It is only a few supposed adults who have a problem with childlike avatars and they look to be in dire need of some inner child therapy!
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yes, I can only agree with you. this size madness and as soon as a girl avatar is a little younger she immediately has a child avatar lol
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Here again to correct any misunderstandings
we were actually friendly and the whole thing was a reaction. But you seem to have misunderstood something, it wasn't about the fact that there shouldn't be fat or short avatars, that's not what it meant and the BMI was in the data. For me it was about the size.
I hope you understand what I mean because I use a translator
like I said in the previous post
For example, it's about my fiancée who has a petite avi and has already been claimed for the 2nd time that she has a child avi. But that wasn't enough, our grid was equated with children's grids pedo grids with alleged proofs that can't exist at all because we don't have anything like that, but the girl kept claiming that it made me angry, it's quite clear. I will not allow our grid name to be dragged into the mud by such claims. We have everything adult, we have pillars that clearly prohibit children's avi. and that's why I have to act on such claims. I hope you now understand what I mean :-)
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we were actually friendly and the whole thing was a reaction. But you seem to have misunderstood something, it wasn't about the fact that there shouldn't be fat or short avatars, that's not what it meant and the BMI was in the data. For me it was about the size.
I hope you understand what I mean because I use a translator
like I said in the previous post
For example, it's about my fiancée who has a petite avi and has already been claimed for the 2nd time that she has a child avi. But that wasn't enough, our grid was equated with children's grids pedo grids with alleged proofs that can't exist at all because we don't have anything like that, but the girl kept claiming that it made me angry, it's quite clear. I will not allow our grid name to be dragged into the mud by such claims. We have everything adult, we have pillars that clearly prohibit children's avi. and that's why I have to act on such claims. I hope you now understand what I mean :-)
Since you seem to be addressing people with some civil and less threats now --
When I addressed the fact this was only directed to female avies and was very restricting even adding in BMI - ie, no fat or short people apparently - the response was nothing civil and was immediately threatening. I hardly ever engage here about anything but this struck me as a bit repressive. So if my concerns had been met with this civility you are using with others now, I'd have returned that.
I very rarely take anyone on about anything. I steer clear of this. But threats are bs and that's what was thrown at me for my concerns that height and weight would even be a consideration.
I actually completely support the need for avies to have some reasonably normal size, as opposed to 10 feet tall etc.
But the crappy comment from Pagane - who is happily blocked now, never had a reason to before - did not help, and was just totally bitchy and ageist.
I hope we can set this aside, but in the future, throwing German criminal law threats at people isn't going to make your case, it just turns off people who might otherwise come around to your ideas.
I am not a troublemaker here and again, rarely even speak up. And I do agree with the general concept.
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When I addressed the fact this was only directed to female avies and was very restricting even adding in BMI - ie, no fat or short people apparently - the response was nothing civil and was immediately threatening. I hardly ever engage here about anything but this struck me as a bit repressive. So if my concerns had been met with this civility you are using with others now, I'd have returned that.
I very rarely take anyone on about anything. I steer clear of this. But threats are bs and that's what was thrown at me for my concerns that height and weight would even be a consideration.
I actually completely support the need for avies to have some reasonably normal size, as opposed to 10 feet tall etc.
But the crappy comment from Pagane - who is happily blocked now, never had a reason to before - did not help, and was just totally bitchy and ageist.
I hope we can set this aside, but in the future, throwing German criminal law threats at people isn't going to make your case, it just turns off people who might otherwise come around to your ideas.
I am not a troublemaker here and again, rarely even speak up. And I do agree with the general concept.
We were actually friendly and the whole thing was a reaction. But you seem to have misunderstood something, it wasn't about the fact that there shouldn't be fat or short avatars, that's not what it meant and the BMI was in the data. For me it was about the size.
I hope you understand what I mean because I use a translator
like I said in the previous post
For example, it's about my fiancée who has a petite avi and has already been claimed for the 2nd time that she has a child avi. But that wasn't enough, our grid was equated with children's grids pedo grids with alleged proofs that can't exist at all because we don't have anything like that, but the girl kept claiming that it made me angry, it's quite clear. I will not allow our grid name to be dragged into the mud by such claims. We have everything adult, we have pillars that clearly prohibit children's avi. and that's why I have to act on such claims. I hope you now understand what I mean :-)
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I hope you understand what I mean because I use a translator
like I said in the previous post
For example, it's about my fiancée who has a petite avi and has already been claimed for the 2nd time that she has a child avi. But that wasn't enough, our grid was equated with children's grids pedo grids with alleged proofs that can't exist at all because we don't have anything like that, but the girl kept claiming that it made me angry, it's quite clear. I will not allow our grid name to be dragged into the mud by such claims. We have everything adult, we have pillars that clearly prohibit children's avi. and that's why I have to act on such claims. I hope you now understand what I mean :-)
Then I apologize for the misunderstanding.
We both overreacted I think. Yes, I do understand, and thank you for clarifying. Again though, threats only serve to raise tempers and hurt feelings, and that usually leads to things getting worse.
I hope we can start over :)
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We both overreacted I think. Yes, I do understand, and thank you for clarifying. Again though, threats only serve to raise tempers and hurt feelings, and that usually leads to things getting worse.
I hope we can start over :)
Glad we can start over, again, apologies for the bad feelings.
You may want to delete all those old comments, I removed mine hours ago not wanting to make things bad here.
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You may want to delete all those old comments, I removed mine hours ago not wanting to make things bad here.
Totally up to you, now that I really understand what was meant, its a pretty valid point.
But whatever seems best. :)
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But whatever seems best. :)
Good morning everyone :-) Mistressdalgato, I will be happy to answer your question. On our grid, children's avatars are strictly forbidden, which you can usually see at every landing point. Since we allow nudity and sex on every sim, it is not possible for us to allow children's avatars. Unfortunately, it happens every now and then that someone, for example, mistakes my fiancée for 10 with her petite avi. although it's not true at all and she's 172 meters tall with full body tattoos etc. so there are people who just claim she has a child avatar and when that happens it starts to really piss me off It doesn't happen often, it's been twice so far but that's too much because, as I said, it's simply not true
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I totally agree with what your saying, the new petite avatars now days tend to make it borderline, but i never assume, i always ask. im short too and if there is a child gate script it gets me lol.
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I understand all of the post but is unclear if child avatars are banned in your grid or not, im all for the bann to be honest it just isnt clear if it pertains to your grid. Not everyone who is short or petiet is a child avi, that i agree with.
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Good for you Germangrid! My avatar is 5.76 female (175.26) so actually taller than my RL body. In RL, my avi could be dunking a basketball in the WNBA. Yet I am by far one of the smaller avis that I come across in OS. Some have even had to the gall to tell me I was a "child" and needed to make myself taller or leave (looking at you Lbsa plaza!) The fact is that the giants avis damage the OS experience by making everything much bigger than it needs to be to fit their mile high view.
I totally support your effort on support of realistic body hight at German grid, but please be careful by saying child avitars are not strictly forbidden. You dont want Dan or Satyre simply blocking your entire grid for not other reason that you have allowed young/child size avitars. Avedon Park is a moderate region, so I allow anyone there, even giant goofy-looking male avatars with big muscles and tiny heads. Avedon South is adult rated and I enforce that accordingly.
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I totally support your effort on support of realistic body hight at German grid, but please be careful by saying child avitars are not strictly forbidden. You dont want Dan or Satyre simply blocking your entire grid for not other reason that you have allowed young/child size avitars. Avedon Park is a moderate region, so I allow anyone there, even giant goofy-looking male avatars with big muscles and tiny heads. Avedon South is adult rated and I enforce that accordingly.
personally i would love if someone would take all the male bodies and make them normal size. Yes we would look smaller, but we would also run faster, and load faster. In fact. This entire tirade is never going to stop until someone takes many male and female bodies that are popular and PUTS THEM AT NORMAL SIZE!!!
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That'd be difficult.
Most people use the shapes that come with their ripped SL heads. And ripped SL heads with shapes from times when you had to be a giant in SL are all over the Hypergrid. About half of them seem to use these shapes as they are as the willingness to edit something, anything, in OpenSim has decreased over the last few years. People want it the easy way. They want to use stuff as it is out of the box. Well, and the other half takes one of these shapes and yanks the height slider to 100 because that's what they've always done in SL.
Another issue is that people are used to height measures in SL being inaccurate anyway and not believing in these figures. Thing is, SL measures your height from your feet to your eyes. That's a bug that LL won't fix because it'd break too much stuff. OpenSim, on the other hand, has always measured your height from your feet to the top of your head. But hardly anyone knows about this, and those who do adjust their shapes do so until it looks good, even though they end up giants.
Lastly, you'd have to not only make new, realistic shapes for the lazy ones and add them to the heads, but you'd have to replace these heads all over the Hypergrid, all the way to freebie sims that are hardly maintained anymore.
I know how hard it is to have stuff replaced in a "found that stuff on the Hypergrid" freebie store. Either the owner does zilch, or they don't really understand what you want, but you gave them some nice items, so they hang up your fixed items next to the same unfixed ones because they barely know what they've got on their walls.
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Most people use the shapes that come with their ripped SL heads. And ripped SL heads with shapes from times when you had to be a giant in SL are all over the Hypergrid. About half of them seem to use these shapes as they are as the willingness to edit something, anything, in OpenSim has decreased over the last few years. People want it the easy way. They want to use stuff as it is out of the box. Well, and the other half takes one of these shapes and yanks the height slider to 100 because that's what they've always done in SL.
Another issue is that people are used to height measures in SL being inaccurate anyway and not believing in these figures. Thing is, SL measures your height from your feet to your eyes. That's a bug that LL won't fix because it'd break too much stuff. OpenSim, on the other hand, has always measured your height from your feet to the top of your head. But hardly anyone knows about this, and those who do adjust their shapes do so until it looks good, even though they end up giants.
Lastly, you'd have to not only make new, realistic shapes for the lazy ones and add them to the heads, but you'd have to replace these heads all over the Hypergrid, all the way to freebie sims that are hardly maintained anymore.
I know how hard it is to have stuff replaced in a "found that stuff on the Hypergrid" freebie store. Either the owner does zilch, or they don't really understand what you want, but you gave them some nice items, so they hang up your fixed items next to the same unfixed ones because they barely know what they've got on their walls.
Could men not simply set the male avatars to a reasonable height, and maybe pull the muscles back bit? You listed many fits and it is also great way to safe space. Realistic avitars do not eat up much space, there view is lower, so you can build at more realistic levels.
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Something found that has worked for me is to set my avi height to real-life height. Then Turn the body fat and body size sliders to 0. From there, build your torso and leg using just the torso and leg muscle sliders. THE add the body fat. I guess it seems to work best to" build out instead of condense in". At lest that seems to be the flow that works for me. YMMV.
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We would like to thank you for the supportive comments, it's nice to see that there are people who understand exactly what it's about. As final words
We stick to our German law as much as possible, we do what is possible within the legal framework. If someone doesn't like it, it's not our problem. now germangrid wish you a nice morning day or night whatever you have right now :-) this topic is closed now
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We stick to our German law as much as possible, we do what is possible within the legal framework. If someone doesn't like it, it's not our problem. now germangrid wish you a nice morning day or night whatever you have right now :-) this topic is closed now
Pagane, your comments don't even make sense. I don't know what kind of doctors you have, but they sound like they got their license in a cracker jack box. As far as Joe goes, he still trying to clean up the mess from one before. He worked along side Obama for 8 years, and pretty sure he knows the job entailed.
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Don't have to be a 12 foot high fridge freezer thicc amazon to be classed as an adult. Some adults are short, some adults are tall, and in-between. No need to be a giant beach ball body type just to fit in. It's getting silly.
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Pagane Of course I understand that I also know it from well-known RL. I am or get angry when someone or several people are called pedos, which is not the case at all and there is always someone who does that. At some point I have to send a clear signal. We are normally always friendly and are happy about visitors, just not with such accusations. Ahtena petite avi is an adult avi
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Regarding the size of the tits: Just asking - is there at least one American court that wouldn't instantly convict any fool who dares to say that my tits are too small or too big?
I will not talk about the racist criteria regarding the size of the eyes, nose, head and so on, because they will again tell me that I am a Putinist or a fascist because I don't change my gender and I don't have a silicone ass or at least tits...
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I will not talk about the racist criteria regarding the size of the eyes, nose, head and so on, because they will again tell me that I am a Putinist or a fascist because I don't change my gender and I don't have a silicone ass or at least tits...
Here in Germany, for example, there is character assassination and slander. False accusations and so on are punishable and if this doesn't stop I will do something
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