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It is so sad to see osgrid deleting their entire database of assets. I imagine much will be lost and never seen again from people who haven't logged in for a while. I heard they are starting from scratch. So sad to see their asset database in such a terrible disarray that they had to throw the ENTIRE THING into the rubbish bin. Databases are fickle beings... They don't appreciate drama... hehehe...
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Agreed CyberGlo, it is a sad thing. However, it HAS had a good life and has only ever been described as an alpha test grid.
Personally I know I had stuff that is now gone. I've done IARs but there will be loads in there that is just not able to be rezzed. I will probably restore those on a test grid myself and then resave that is worth saving.
The fact that I will have lost some old stuff (that is probably junk but has memories attached) is disappointing but its my fault for not taking IARs in the past so noone to blame but me!
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Personally I know I had stuff that is now gone. I've done IARs but there will be loads in there that is just not able to be rezzed. I will probably restore those on a test grid myself and then resave that is worth saving.
The fact that I will have lost some old stuff (that is probably junk but has memories attached) is disappointing but its my fault for not taking IARs in the past so noone to blame but me!
Another thing, quite sad actually, is that many still useful freebies may perish when OSgrid's asset database is purged. I'm not talking about old SL stuff that came in in the second half of the 2010s, and that's broken anyway because its very import was botched already.
I'm talking about legal content, be it mesh objects that aren't even that old, but not available in any stores anymore (Arcadia Shop, anyone?), be it old but still useful layer clothes, many of which were offered by their creators no-transfer (I hope someone saves Festa 24H and keeps the owner and creator tags intact), be it many of what few mesh clothes were made for OpenSim from scratch or imported with an official license from the original creators.
The general attitude in OpenSim seems to be, "So what? Let go of that old crap! We'll just rip newer, better, shinier, sexier stuff from SL!"
In fact, many OpenSim users seem to actually anticipate this happening to the whole Hypergrid, or they even demand it. A total purge of all content that's considered "outdated", including any and all layer clothes, including any and all skins and make-up and tattoos that aren't made for LeLutka EvoX. Everything that was not stolen from SL in the last two years must go. If PBR wasn't so hotly debated, I guess the vast majority would wish for the entirety of the Hypergrid to brandish only PBR textures until the end of the year.
But there are also those few idealists who prefer not to resort to stolen content. Who prefer to use actually legal content instead. Who support and promote OpenSim's own creativity (which, by the way, is not only Linda Kellie stuff from the late 2000s, no matter what the copybotters' propaganda tries to tell you). Who want to demonstrate how far you can go with legal content. Who are often also individualists with their very own avatar styles. And who know that layer clothes still do have their place in 2025's OpenSim, what with Bakes-on-Mesh being omnipresent now.
The general message to them is that they're brain-dead, moronic, completely retarded pieces of horse shit who are too fucking dumb to use OpenSim correctly.
a) Mesh bodies, heads, hair etc. are either stolen from Second Life (even though many would swear under oath that Athena was scratch-made in OpenSim) or SO ABSOLUTELY MOTHERFUCKING GUT-WRENCHINGLY HIDEOUS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE FUCKING GOUGING YOUR OWN FUCKING EYES OUT WHENEVER YOU SEE ONE! Everyone who uses one of these bodies is either a dumb and clueless newbie who hasn't found "the good stuff" yet (implying that "the good stuff" is harder to find than Ruth2 v4) or too stupid to use "the good stuff" (implying that LaraX is harder to use than Ruth2 v4).
b) Layer clothes are old, outdated crap. You must never, never ever wear any of these. You must always wear everything as mesh. No exception. If you've got layer clothes on, you're clearly too fucking dumb to understand how avatars in OpenSim work. And if you have to resort to layer clothes for anything skin-tight because it isn't available as mesh rigged for your body, you've got the wrong body, and you must toss it NOW.
c) What do you want to do that you need layer clothes for? Wear a skirt or a dress with stockings or tights?! Like, tights are for grannies, and so are stockings unless maybe when the garters remain in plain sight! Female OpenSim avatars MUST always dress as sexily as possible, and that means showing more skin than not! And yes, always and everywhere, even on snow-covered Christmas sims!
I've really got the feeling that not only any and all legal content allegedly needs to die, but so do entire ways of equipping and outfitting avatars. And OSgrid's asset database purge is seen as a perfect first step towards achieving this.
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I'm talking about legal content, be it mesh objects that aren't even that old, but not available in any stores anymore (Arcadia Shop, anyone?), be it old but still useful layer clothes, many of which were offered by their creators no-transfer (I hope someone saves Festa 24H and keeps the owner and creator tags intact), be it many of what few mesh clothes were made for OpenSim from scratch or imported with an official license from the original creators.
The general attitude in OpenSim seems to be, "So what? Let go of that old crap! We'll just rip newer, better, shinier, sexier stuff from SL!"
In fact, many OpenSim users seem to actually anticipate this happening to the whole Hypergrid, or they even demand it. A total purge of all content that's considered "outdated", including any and all layer clothes, including any and all skins and make-up and tattoos that aren't made for LeLutka EvoX. Everything that was not stolen from SL in the last two years must go. If PBR wasn't so hotly debated, I guess the vast majority would wish for the entirety of the Hypergrid to brandish only PBR textures until the end of the year.
But there are also those few idealists who prefer not to resort to stolen content. Who prefer to use actually legal content instead. Who support and promote OpenSim's own creativity (which, by the way, is not only Linda Kellie stuff from the late 2000s, no matter what the copybotters' propaganda tries to tell you). Who want to demonstrate how far you can go with legal content. Who are often also individualists with their very own avatar styles. And who know that layer clothes still do have their place in 2025's OpenSim, what with Bakes-on-Mesh being omnipresent now.
The general message to them is that they're brain-dead, moronic, completely retarded pieces of horse shit who are too fucking dumb to use OpenSim correctly.
a) Mesh bodies, heads, hair etc. are either stolen from Second Life (even though many would swear under oath that Athena was scratch-made in OpenSim) or SO ABSOLUTELY MOTHERFUCKING GUT-WRENCHINGLY HIDEOUS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE FUCKING GOUGING YOUR OWN FUCKING EYES OUT WHENEVER YOU SEE ONE! Everyone who uses one of these bodies is either a dumb and clueless newbie who hasn't found "the good stuff" yet (implying that "the good stuff" is harder to find than Ruth2 v4) or too stupid to use "the good stuff" (implying that LaraX is harder to use than Ruth2 v4).
b) Layer clothes are old, outdated crap. You must never, never ever wear any of these. You must always wear everything as mesh. No exception. If you've got layer clothes on, you're clearly too fucking dumb to understand how avatars in OpenSim work. And if you have to resort to layer clothes for anything skin-tight because it isn't available as mesh rigged for your body, you've got the wrong body, and you must toss it NOW.
c) What do you want to do that you need layer clothes for? Wear a skirt or a dress with stockings or tights?! Like, tights are for grannies, and so are stockings unless maybe when the garters remain in plain sight! Female OpenSim avatars MUST always dress as sexily as possible, and that means showing more skin than not! And yes, always and everywhere, even on snow-covered Christmas sims!
I've really got the feeling that not only any and all legal content allegedly needs to die, but so do entire ways of equipping and outfitting avatars. And OSgrid's asset database purge is seen as a perfect first step towards achieving this.
One thing that struck me about this whole story is how OSgrid residents are informed about the situation. If at all.
Originally, people were only given four weeks to save their stuff. This implied that not coming online every two or three weeks equals inactive enough that purging your inventory without you having a chance to save it is justified. This was extended to a bit over five weeks. From what would have been a bit over three weeks at that point, barely enough for those to notice who show up once a month or so.
But: The only official sources of information were and still are the OSgrid news blog (which, AFAIK, doesn't even generate a feed, so you actively have to take a look at it every few weeks or so, even if there's usually nothing happening on it for months), the OSgrid Discord (which not nearly everyone has joined) and the OSgrid login screen. Worse yet, what the OSgrid login screen shows is so vague that nobody will pay attention to it.
There wasn't a single push notification. OSgrid has everyone's mail addresses. But they don't make use of them, not even in such cases of emergency.
I guess most OSgrid residents who learned about all this did so through third-party sources, especially OSW.
There WILL be OSgrid residents coming back in a few months or years and wondering why their inventories are empty and probably even their sims are wiped clean with only the barren land remaining. Many of them won't have backups of anything. And they'll be furious about OSgrid taking such steps without notifying them.
I really hope that Aaack Aardvark still keeps an OAR of his now-disappeared ArcadiaShop.
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Originally, people were only given four weeks to save their stuff. This implied that not coming online every two or three weeks equals inactive enough that purging your inventory without you having a chance to save it is justified. This was extended to a bit over five weeks. From what would have been a bit over three weeks at that point, barely enough for those to notice who show up once a month or so.
But: The only official sources of information were and still are the OSgrid news blog (which, AFAIK, doesn't even generate a feed, so you actively have to take a look at it every few weeks or so, even if there's usually nothing happening on it for months), the OSgrid Discord (which not nearly everyone has joined) and the OSgrid login screen. Worse yet, what the OSgrid login screen shows is so vague that nobody will pay attention to it.
There wasn't a single push notification. OSgrid has everyone's mail addresses. But they don't make use of them, not even in such cases of emergency.
I guess most OSgrid residents who learned about all this did so through third-party sources, especially OSW.
There WILL be OSgrid residents coming back in a few months or years and wondering why their inventories are empty and probably even their sims are wiped clean with only the barren land remaining. Many of them won't have backups of anything. And they'll be furious about OSgrid taking such steps without notifying them.
I really hope that Aaack Aardvark still keeps an OAR of his now-disappeared ArcadiaShop.
Yeah I wish so too. He has/had some really awesome stuff. I have a lot of it but not all of it.
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I couldn't imagine how many elements each and every person has. Whippin alone had probably 27k. I think this is a good thing. A fresh start for everyone. Took 3 days alone for me to do an IAR for her inventory. If most of that stuff is still missing. Oh well, It's only stuff. It's not the end of the world.
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Well if you read their latest "NEWS" post it seems like there will be a "performance enhancement" and "NEW Features" so maybe that is what this asset crisis is all about "MAKING CHANGES?"
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I think that maybe a good idea in the future. When OSGrid releases a standard OSG-configured OpenSim package. It should have Autobackup enabled by default, and it will be configured to have at least one monthly backup saved. That way if this ever happens again, most people will be able to restore their region at least, with the assets intact.
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