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They promised you a test grid, not a stable grid. Quit acting like they broke their promise. You got exactly what they promised you. A test grid.
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Please see my other posts, where I do a 180 and offer a completely different point of view. This way I can please everyone so it will be worth your time for the jolt of dopamine.
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https://www.osgrid.org/ Testing grid for OpenSimulator We test and run full featured development code for OpenSimulator!
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I saw your apology regarding "test grid" and despite our negative start to conversation I just wanted to say that was big of you, not everyone would have done it.
If you get hate for making a mistake don't worry it's a very big club - but it's easy to throw stones and hide - much harder to admit you got something wrong.
Also very good to know that Ferd is still around and actively making pixel life better.
Those who never ever ever got anything wrong can now flame me freely.
"Up your pipe" I say!
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If you get hate for making a mistake don't worry it's a very big club - but it's easy to throw stones and hide - much harder to admit you got something wrong.
Also very good to know that Ferd is still around and actively making pixel life better.
Those who never ever ever got anything wrong can now flame me freely.
"Up your pipe" I say!
With a population of 161713, for Osgrid and inventory for that many people. No wonder they have a problem. Wolf Territories has 1966. So do the math.
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Though true that Osgrid initially started as a test grid for Opensim, a few years back it did shift its focus from being a test grid to a resident one since the OS core was not only testing on it anymore and Osgrid administrators became interested in promoting Osgrid as a place to come to for a virtual life. They did not want to scare off new people by touting it as some sort of Alpha state and Dan Banner tried to make sure that new Osgrid releases were stable before release.
The question in my mind is what was the exact problem? We keep hearing assets were corrupted but my question was it because of how they were coded in OS Core thereby making any releases based on that code bad and prone to corruption or did the assets go bad because of how Osgrid was networking on the Grid?
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The question in my mind is what was the exact problem? We keep hearing assets were corrupted but my question was it because of how they were coded in OS Core thereby making any releases based on that code bad and prone to corruption or did the assets go bad because of how Osgrid was networking on the Grid?
Agreed - they didn't. However, I think the communications have been a little "less than awesome" to be honest. I "suspect" that reaction may have been better if they had started out by posting Sorry its broken and we need to restart it. There has been a certain amount of "we're giving you time to get stuff off" - but ofc a lot of stuff that was just impossible for. I believe THAT is the main concern many people have.
Me? I'm just not sure if I should keep my regions connected to keep their map locations when the grid gets reset!
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Me? I'm just not sure if I should keep my regions connected to keep their map locations when the grid gets reset!
I guess the only thing anyone can do is keep positive. Easy for me to say as I haven't had a presence there for a good while.
But they seem to be working on it, heard comments such as "may be a month".
Maybe the way to lose OSG permanently is for everyone to give up and tell them they don't care.
But a better stronger OSG may emerge from this mess and I have no doubt they will work hard on it if we show support.
Opensim needs continuity and growth and not least positivity.
Negativity and mud slinging need not apply for the job.
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But they seem to be working on it, heard comments such as "may be a month".
Maybe the way to lose OSG permanently is for everyone to give up and tell them they don't care.
But a better stronger OSG may emerge from this mess and I have no doubt they will work hard on it if we show support.
Opensim needs continuity and growth and not least positivity.
Negativity and mud slinging need not apply for the job.
I think this is fair enough - but it still depends if you are able to go to this expense. I agree its a great service he's now able to offer. OFC its unlikely to be 100% successful - but as most things are around many places its very likely going to be a MASSIVE help! All I can say is "nice one Lone!"
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I am sure you are being sarcastic - but what you say may actually be true. Do not assume others disposable income! Besides - I wasn't aware that Lone actually DID 1x1 regions - from my memory (which may be faulty) in the past he only did 4x4s so I believed this to be significantly higher.
In actual fact though - the numbers you quote here are still incorrect. Its $6.35 for a 1x1 but you have to add prims on top of this. For the lowest tier it's $2.54 thats $8.89. Don't get me wrong thats still very good value.
However, to use Lone's new service of fixing oars I would imagine you would need a region the same size as the one he's going to fix. If your region on osgrid was a 4x4 then its unlikely that renting a 1x1 from Lone would be sufficient. In this case it would be $25.40 + $2.54 = $27.94. That may well put it out of reach of some people. Of course my assumptions on the size of region you need to rent for this are just that assumptions.
I do want to make it clear here that I am NOT criticizing Lone's pricing, or this new service. I am simply pointing out that some people may not be able to stretch to this or not be able to do this for other reasons. Your sarcastic comment about "might break someone" may not have been meant this way, but can be very demoralising for someone already down on their luck and feeling low. I do not believe looking down on people for their lot in life should be acceptable. Just my opinion maybe.
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In actual fact though - the numbers you quote here are still incorrect. Its $6.35 for a 1x1 but you have to add prims on top of this. For the lowest tier it's $2.54 thats $8.89. Don't get me wrong thats still very good value.
However, to use Lone's new service of fixing oars I would imagine you would need a region the same size as the one he's going to fix. If your region on osgrid was a 4x4 then its unlikely that renting a 1x1 from Lone would be sufficient. In this case it would be $25.40 + $2.54 = $27.94. That may well put it out of reach of some people. Of course my assumptions on the size of region you need to rent for this are just that assumptions.
I do want to make it clear here that I am NOT criticizing Lone's pricing, or this new service. I am simply pointing out that some people may not be able to stretch to this or not be able to do this for other reasons. Your sarcastic comment about "might break someone" may not have been meant this way, but can be very demoralising for someone already down on their luck and feeling low. I do not believe looking down on people for their lot in life should be acceptable. Just my opinion maybe.
I was going to ask if the sim had to match the OAR size - it does make sense, how else would you test the repair?
People may just not have the money of course even though it would still be cheap by data recovery standards. Times are hard for many.
If Wolf can rent at a discount for the first month it might help, I'm sure some would get the restored land and perhaps see how fast his mega servers are and stay - wouldn't blame him at all for that.
Just checked, you can rent a 256x256 sim.
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People may just not have the money of course even though it would still be cheap by data recovery standards. Times are hard for many.
If Wolf can rent at a discount for the first month it might help, I'm sure some would get the restored land and perhaps see how fast his mega servers are and stay - wouldn't blame him at all for that.
Just checked, you can rent a 256x256 sim.
In my comment, I was not criticizing prices of any sort. I was just making a point of the amount of population, and data difference, between grids. Also Cyber had mentioned anyone could get a fix from Wolf, for their back-ups. But forgot to mention you need to rent from him. Some may assume this help was for free. But some people have to turn things around, and make it a joke.
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From what I read Wolf is a magician with a heck of a lot of resources and this sounds like very good news, also takes some stress from the OSG team so treble points to Wolf!
But it may well be that "fix" may mean some loss, sometimes holes in data need closing in order for the recovery of the rest.
If Wolf can recreate lost data from nothing, I can definitely find other jobs worthy of his talents.
Go WOLF!
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But it may well be that "fix" may mean some loss, sometimes holes in data need closing in order for the recovery of the rest.
If Wolf can recreate lost data from nothing, I can definitely find other jobs worthy of his talents.
Go WOLF!
Can anyone tell me how to post to this page please? I see plenty of 'Reply' buttons to other people's posts, but no obvious way yo post a new thread here. Thank you - and apologies for this interruption.
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Oh Ellen! Thank you so so much. Easy peasey (when you know how!). I am well thank you. I had a really big art gallery set up all ready for an 'end of the world show' from 7th - 21st of this month. Then the end of the world came knocking sooner than scheduled and our gallery went 'bang' before a soul has seen it, so - less than optimally happy right now, but of course it's small beer in the grande scheme of things and I am very well thank you! I hope both these wonderful things can be said of you too? Well, and Happy?! Wishing you joy and rude health always X.
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