I am far away from making a religion about ruth or athena, stolen in sl or opensim homegrown. I enjoy building my own things, plants, animals, houses or clothes. I prefer the ruth-body, because it looks better to me then the "big-ass-athenas". But every one, how he likes. sl promised "your world - your fantasy". Opensim is my world - my fantasy! And if you like my stuff just take it fullperm, to make it yours using your fantasy. Lets have a good time, everybody in his opinion.

Here's a link to a pdf of @JupiterRowland 's list of destinations. Feel free to download it and pass it along. If there's interest, I can also post it in the Opensimworld discord server: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sr-wkJ5uQDNg80etMl4ZS0jbM...

I'd love to have Ruth mega store with everyone's creations in it! I have also been trying to learn how to rig clothes to the ruth avatar in Blender but it's been a frustrating ride so far haha. Jupiter has done a great job with locating all that is available to us to so thanks heaps Jupiter :)

Oh, by the way, the OSW Ruth and Roth group (https://opensimworld.com/groups/1014) is worth keeping an eye on. Sometimes it features new or not-so-new clothes or other accessories, including where to get them.

I think you're taking a great step in the right direction :-) I wear a Ruth 2 avatar and so far my mesh clothing has come from the Kitely Market. There's not a lot there yet but I like Pacifica and Rune, along with a couple of others. I'll have to try some of the places Jupiter mentioned as well as Dorena's place. As for my regions, I make everything there except for a fun little party boat that came from Lani Mall on OSGrid.

Funny how some people worry about Pirated Avatars, Clothes and hair, But are willing to fill there regions with Copied items from SL like Homes, Trees, Ponies and all the rest of there decorations. Makes ya wonder what the hell are they thinking..Sounds hypocritical to me.

Thanks to all who have replied or liked the post so far. I don't plan on getting rid of the pirates, but I really want to try my best to honor those who create great material for Open Sim without resorting to copying bits from SL. Still not sure where I'll eventually plant a house, maybe somewhere in the Kitely grid?

Speaking of which... from this point forward, I plan on making Kitely my main Open Sim account, as the customer service is great and their servers are reliable; they use amazon's aws tech... the same as SL.

So it's time for me to also find a reliable second account, and perhaps someplace where I can quickly import most of my clothes and outfits from OSgrid. I'm looking at Alternate Metaverse as a second account. OSgrid will then be my account of last resort. I don't plan on getting rid of it just yet.

I used the Kitely account for this Ruth2 avatar. :) No plans from me to place any of this on my OSgrid avi.

It took me several hours to compile this, but: Yes, there are some places where you can get unpirated clothes for Ruth2.

First of all, there are Taarna Welles' sims.

Savvy (https://opensimworld.com/hop/75031; bubblesz.nl:8002:Savvy) offers original mesh clothes made for Ruth 2.0 RC#2, many of which can also be worn on Ruth2 v4 (the knit dresses, the long-sleeved shirts, the leggings/jeggings, all rigged mesh shoes, many unrigged shoes).

From there, you can head on to Taarna's older sim La Baronnie (bubblesz.nl:8002:La Baronnie) where you'll find more footwear and some accessories. Unfortunately, it's still impossible to copy the Rinestone boots box from the store, but if you absolutely want these, Juno got a full-perm copy from Taarna, and I could try to arrange for her to give it to you.

As for Dorenas World, there are now at least four sims where you can get clothes for Ruth2, and all of them have something exclusive.

Meshmatsch (https://opensimworld.com/hop/82702; dorenas-world.de:8002:Meshmatsch) is Klara's main shopping sim now, but it's limited to her own mesh clothes and accessories, and it doesn't even have all of these.

Bella Klara (https://opensimworld.com/hop/81258; dorenas-world.de:8002:Bella Klara) has a village with some shops in the south where you can get her older mesh creations plus matching textures.

Santiago (https://opensimworld.com/hop/78061; dorenas-world.de:8002:Santiago) lands you right in the middle of the Kaufrausch Mega-Store; on the top floor, Klara offers both some of her more recent mesh creations and her older clothes based on Damien Fate meshes. Here is also where Juno offers her own combinations of Klara's meshes and Klara's textures for those who don't want to combine them themselves, sometimes including textures she has retinted herself.

Finally, west of the centre in the Westend (https://opensimworld.com/hop/80119; dorenas-world.de:8002:Westend), there's still Klara's shoe store with some exclusive Ruth2-rigged medium-height pumps in addition to those at Meshmatsch and in the boxes in Santiago. While you're already in the Westend, head southwest towards the Statue of Liberty. Right opposite of it, you'll find my body shop with some accessories, including two boxes with alpha masks/textures for alpha masks as well as fairly new Ruth2 v4 BoM nail polish. And if you don't have the Ruth2 v4 Extras box yet, get it. It's essential, also because it contains classic "shoes" to lift your avatar up when wearing heels without having to adjust the body height.

Keep in mind that Klara has rigged her own mesh clothes for her own Ruth 2.0 RC#2, so not everything fits Ruth2 v4.

Loru Destiny (https://opensimworld.com/user/Loru), owner of the ArtDestiny grid, both creates Ruth 2.0 clothes, mostly dresses, and offers them on a shop sim. She doesn't want to advertise it, though, because she doesn't want people to god-mode or copybot her works and put them on their own freebie sims. You can either ask her for the address or try to find it from her Welcome sim (https://opensimworld.com/hop/87665; artdestiny.de:8002:ArtDestinyWelcome).

Besides Ruth 2.0 clothes, you may also take a look at mesh clothes made for the system body. They aren't much less likely to fit Ruth2 v4 than Ruth 2.0 RC#2/RC#3 clothes, although they generally have a rather loose fit. And they come with the advantage of alpha masks having already been made for them, although at least many Damien Fate-based boxes come without them. There used to be a full-perm box with raw wearable Damien Fate mesh clothes plus alpha masks, but it perished along with La Tortuga at the turn of the year. You can still download everything (the box was actually incomplete) from Outworldz (https://outworldz.com/Secondlife/posts/mesh-templates/) and import it to OpenSim yourself. In the case of Clutterfly, all original Clutterfly boxes with textured clothes come with alpha masks, and the kit boxes come with textures from which you can make alpha masks.

For textured clothes, of course, your friendly local (or otherwise nearest) Clutterfly is your first address. Some boxes are particulary worth getting regardless of whether the mesh clothes fit you, for they'll supply you with layer leggings, layer tops or layer underwear. If you want to get creative, also pick up some of the kits. Don't forget the bikinis (unless you wear a pubic hair tattoo; the bottoms are truly tiny), the glitter tops and bottoms and the unrigged jewellery.

Juno has found the following items to work quite well with Ruth2 v4, bottoms generally in combination with Damien Fate tops:
* Babydoll dresses
* Babydoll tops
* Halter dresses/tennis dresses
* Rolled pants/clam diggers; longer pants in general
* Long straight skirts (included in boho sets)
* Open sweaters (forget the included alpha masks and make your own)
* Peasant tube tops (included in boho sets)
* Short circle skirts
* Straight mini skirts/leather skirts
* Strapless mini dresses/glitter dresses

One of the most important places to get textured clothes mostly based on Damien Fate meshes is still Klamotto (https://opensimworld.com/hop/78282; otterland.de:8002:Klamotto). Getting there has recently become more difficult, though. For one, Otterland is still one of the last grids where BoM doesn't work. At all. It will ruin your BoM avatar, so be prepared for that.

Besides, thanks to a certain griefer, it's only accessible to group members. And group membership is invite-only. First, if you aren't a Klamotto group member yet, you have to ask Otto von Otter (https://opensimworld.com/user/OttovonOtter) for a group membership. Once he writes back that he has invited you, if you didn't actually receive the invite, you'd have to go to another Otterland sim such as Japan (otterland.de:8002:Japan) to receive and accept it. What makes matters worse currently is that Klamotto is actually the only sim on Otterland accessible to the public, and the group isn't visible outside Otterland. So as of now, if you aren't already a member of the Klamotto group, there's no chance whatsoever to enter the sim.

If you should make it into Klamotto, head to the southeast where there is a big yellow building with the signs KLAMOTTO and DEVA MODA on top. Deva Moda is Cary Bean's brand of clothing and other accessories for female avatars, launched shortly before the rampant copybotting and the Athena craze had started. It can be found upstairs.

Definitely recommended to pick up:
* box of complete avatars at the entrance (it contains a few exclusive bits and pieces)
* sakko outfits (also contain various Rinestone boots and LB trainers; vendor is currently missing)
* pencil skirts
* partly-buttoned shirts (also contain the More Alphas box; vendor is currently missing)
* asymmetric frilled dresses (one of them is currently missing)
* glitter outfits
* lipstick tattoos (one of them is currently missing, fortunately not the most important one)

Ignore the Athena-rigged Tante Tilly's stuff. As for the Christine gowns and the hair, I'm not sure how clean they are; sadly, this includes Juno's hairstyle which you can get here, too. Speaking of her, she is currently trying to gather as many Deva Moda sales boxes as she can to make them available elsewhere, also since most of them are only available here (if at all) in spite of being full-perm.

While you're at Klamotto, go to Shop 42 and pick up the boxes in the middle with the mesh clothes made by Loru Destiny.

A few more of Loru's older but still very wearable clothes can be found at Needful Things (https://opensimworld.com/hop/81253; pangeagrid.de:8002:Needful Things) in Ruth Lane, the first parallel street to the one you land next to. Once you're there, definitely check out NatWyck's shop and Latrine Cesspool's shop, maybe also the Jewelry Store, the Rumpelkammer and Sexy Shoes.

Another grid where you can find interesting things is Craft-World. Start on the welcome sim Hydra (https://opensimworld.com/hop/84370; craft-world.org:8002:Hydra; don't worry, it is online), and from there, walk over to the Craft-Store (craft-world.org:8002:Craft-Store). In particular, the Craft Historical Shop with its white helix full of classic content is worth visiting, particularly for the layer hosiery. Also, head for Riverford (craft-world.org:8002:Riverford) and Sinus (craft-world.org:8002:Sinus) and check the various stores there.

Some of the items from Riverford, as well as the more essential Deva Moda mesh boxes (pencil skirts, partly-buttoned shirts, four of the sakko outfits) is Astralia's ShoppingCity (https://opensimworld.com/hop/85405; astralia.eu:8002:ShoppingCity). It also offers some exclusive items such as Avia Bonne's red leather outfit or most of those tank top + miniskirt sets textured by, I think, Illiana Blachere. Roma, north of ShoppingCity (astralia.eu:8002:Roma), may provide you with some more layer goodies like Avia Bonne lingerie.

Remmy Ravenhurst offers a whole lot of custom-textured mesh outfits for Ruth2 (actually, again, Ruth 2.0 RC#3) at Tropicana Lakes (hg.osgrid.org:80:Tropicana Lakes). I'm not sure if the address will land you anywhere near her shops, though.

Another creator worth mentioning is Thirza Ember. Yes, the same Thirza Ember who runs the HG Safari. The official sim (https://opensimworld.com/hop/75662; hg.osgrid.org:80:HG Safari) has a shop named Meshanthropy with lots of textured Damien Fate and, more recently and not as much, Clutterfly clothes. Some of the outfit boxes come with layer shirts to be worn underneath. Besides, she has also still got her old shop on Nara's Nook which unfortunately seems to be set to private currently. This shop offers layer swimwear and lingerie, but some of it can also be found at Astralia ShoppingCity.

More layer underwear and swimwear can be found at Anna Barzane's shop at Les pieds de sable (https://opensimworld.com/hop/79417; offworld.eu:8002:les piedes de sable).

An unusual address may be 3rd Rock Grid's welcome sim (grid.3rdrockgrid.com:8002:Welcome). Teleport to the building for first-time users and head for the section with women's fashion. Recommended classic boxes are gym bunny, swimwear (very tame one-piece swimsuits) and underwear. Be more careful in the mesh section, for some of the items there are of at least questionable legality; others are based on Clutterfly meshes and therefore safe.

Even more unusual would be Birch Grove (https://opensimworld.com/hop/89611; hg.neverworldgrid.com:8002:Birch Grove; winter clothes currently required). There are several stores strewn across the sim that offer mostly exclusive (!) avatar accessories. Some of them are easy to find because they're on the same shopping street, but I also strongly recommend you to find the Black Hole near the northwest corner, enter it from the side and go upstairs.

For Shinobar Martinek's stuff, especially lingerie/hosiery, visit Zoe's Mall. You could start from Zoe's Mall Welcome (https://opensimworld.com/hop/80390; 2.nymphgrid.com:8002:Zoes Mall Welcome) or head straight for Zoe's Mall 1 (2.nymphgrid.com:8002:Zoes Mall 1). Once you're there, go to the body shop and pick up the Stockings set and the Undies collection. If you want to, you may also pick up the unlabelled pink box below Shino's other boxes which contain more clothes. Some of them are definitely rigged for Maitreya Lara, so while Ruth2 v4 may be able to wear them, I wouldn't necessarily count on them being clean unless Shino says otherwise. (Also, the knit dresses/ensembles are dangerously short.)

By the way, Suzan von Otter and I have improved the seamed black and dark black tights from the Stockings set. Juno could give them to you if you want to, including full-perm raw textures which you could export and, for example, bake onto skin textures for going non-BoM.

Speaking of hosiery: For this, I recommend you to visit Dereos, two sims in particular. The PSSMG Mall (dereos.org:80:PSSMG Mall) offers lots of exclusive layer & prim clothing. As outdated as this may sound, layer clothing is the way to go for everything skin-tight, especially if you want to wear something over it: lingerie, swimwear, sportswear (white socks!), fetishwear even and one of the best boxes of sheer tights you can find anywhere in the Fediverse.

Right next to it sits Lys Sandbox with its shoe store. The footwear offered there was made by sim owner LyAvain Swansong and is unrigged and sculpt-based, but every bit as good as what was stolen from SL. The ballerina flats, the Mary Janes and the boots can be worn by Ruth2 v4. If you have been to my body shop in the Westend in Dorenas World, you should also have alpha masks for the boots that may work for you better than those included with the boots. You can find more shoes in the southwestern corner of the market, including two-part sculpt slouch boots by Aether Dharmapala which in this case come with custom-made alpha masks by Ly. A trip to Lys Sandbox will get you through winter with warm feet.

Also speaking of the slouch boots, there's good old Wright Plaza (https://opensimworld.com/hop/75040; hg.osgrid.org:80:Wright Plaza). The mixed freebies store in the northwest is worth a visit alone. It offers you classic goodies from more slouch boots (take the lift one floor up where most of the avatar accessories can be found) to Morgaine Alter's tights with autumn leaves on them (saves you an extra trip to Festa 24H). Specialised shops you should check out include but aren't recommended to oopsee Creations (lots of stockings!), Elif Kling's !E shop (make-up, layer tops to wear under mesh, more flats...) and John Dee's Emporium (lingerie, swimwear; the market stand at Teravus Plaza may be more reliable).

OSgrid staff member Sarah Kline has a shop at Wright Plaza, too, which offers some of her stuff, but not what might be the most interesting: Her two boxes with stockings have to be picked up from Adriana Scklenkova's packed shop at Mystical Mall (https://opensimworld.com/hop/78625; hg.osgrid.org:80:Mystical Mall).

Last but not least, you will have to make your own alpha masks sooner or later. But there's something that makes this task a lot easier: Robin "Sojourner" Wood's UV templates. You can download them here: https://www.robinwood.com/Catalog/Technical/SL-Tuts/SLPage... You don't necessarily need the Photoshop files, the textures are enough. You can import them into OpenSim and make them into a classic skin or full-body tattoo to see which part of the body is where on the texture. And you can use them as guides or templates for your own alpha masks.

(I think I should build a teleporter HUD one day that sends people directly to specific shops as in right in front of the doors.)

I will place a box with landmarks in front of my shop in dorenas world the next days. Even Loru Destiny makes some beautiful things for Ruth.

Very nice idea, you might try Taarna Wells' grid https://opensimworld.com/hop/74862 she has fabulous clothes and shoes.