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I'm banned but you're not!
If you don't ever see me in your favourite opensim grid, most likely it’s because I'm banned.
My grid has no such bans though, so do feel free to visit anytime and help yourself to my free, unique and original creations, if you want!
If you don't ever see me in your favourite opensim grid, most likely it’s because I'm banned.
My grid has no such bans though, so do feel free to visit anytime and help yourself to my free, unique and original creations, if you want!
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It's been quite cathartic to wear what I want and go where I want to, excluding OSGrid, without worrying if I'm correctly dressed, or if I'll be reported by some, spineless, silent individual in LBSA reporting "people of interest", for being unlike them. Well, guess what OSG, that's not how communities are made, or grow, it's how you create division, hatred and intolerance.
Ring any bells, if you need a clue, think of the Nazi's and the second world war, just saying.
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Ring any bells, if you need a clue, think of the Nazi's and the second world war, just saying.
Unfortunately, OSGrid does whatever the hell OSGrid wants to do. That's not necessarily a good thing. I was told once by a senior OSG admin that having "users" was just an unexpected consequence of running a testing grid. Well, OSGrid, my message to you is, the test is over, it failed successfully, and so are you. God Bless, good luck and good riddance. :)
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And yet, when you log into OSGrid, what is usually the first message that greets you? Something along the lines, "OSGrid is supported by it's residents, please donate."
I know we live in the age of neoliberal economics where we give money to people who've found a way to even exploit the capitalists, but even with Jeff Bezos, we usually get something delivered that has a warranty so we can send something back and get a refund if the service or item isn't suitable or fit for purpose.
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I know we live in the age of neoliberal economics where we give money to people who've found a way to even exploit the capitalists, but even with Jeff Bezos, we usually get something delivered that has a warranty so we can send something back and get a refund if the service or item isn't suitable or fit for purpose.
The 144 regions in 36 vars in Caribougrid.com will always stay open for Avatars from all grids, be they in OS or outside. Caribou is Adult rated and we therefore hope that our friends come as 18+ Avatars, at any size small or large, so we can keep these islands open, advanced and safe for all. I believe that this is in our common interest and we are happy to serve it here.
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Hi Kelly4U, Jupiter, you're correct, however it's my belief OSGrid manipulates its own rules, to produce the outcome it desires. In the past, it banned a ton of good folks, sometimes because they were furries, or child avvies, or free thinkers, who voiced their opinions about OSGrid being non-democratic.
I was foolish enough, once to suggest if OSGrid is a testing grid for the OpenSimulator project (which it is), then maybe it should be managed and guided by notable people from the opensim community. I bet you can guess how well that idea was recieved.
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I was foolish enough, once to suggest if OSGrid is a testing grid for the OpenSimulator project (which it is), then maybe it should be managed and guided by notable people from the opensim community. I bet you can guess how well that idea was recieved.
OSGrid survives simply because is has so much support. It's quite amazing it has the support that it does really, given the contemptuous attitude that has been shown towards residents on occasion. When the asset server went down in 2014 taking the grid offline for six months many were incensed that not only were there no proper backups for those servers, but that the grid was hiding behind its status as a test grid. That's fair enough when they allow people to connect for free, or to use the grid fro free, but the fact remains that the grid is constantly soliciting donations to keep going. Nothing wrong with this at all, but surely with this comes a quid pro quo to do the utmost to secure people's inventories? Since that 2014 disaster, I am unsure that the grid has implemented a comprehensive plan to ensure the safety and security of resident's inventories.
Many left the grid at that time, and many very talented people did not return, and many of us who still use OSGrid no longer contribute financially as it's felt that this just rewards the entitled behaviour of those who run the grid with a seemingly cavalier attitude towards residents.
Then there are the seemingly arbitrary application of the rules. I get that often we only hear one side of a story, but the fact that so many have very similar complaints warrants that some note is taken of them. I know of some residents landing in hot water with a senior admin as the result of completely hearsay accusations where if that admin hadn't been so gullible and actually read the screed, (that had been widely distributed beforehand) it would have been immediately obvious that the complainant couldn't string together a logical thread, and that some of the claims were ludicrous. I also know of someone who was banned simply because an admin suspected that they were an alt of someone - merely suspected that is, not proven. Okay, according to the rules, the grid can do that, but I do feel that when a grid runs on resident's donations then residents themselves should have some say on how the grid is run.
If OSGrid were to face a defunding campaign there would soon be changes. It wouldn't take much, and whilst I doubt a democracy would be established, I do think that something like that could result in clearer terms of service, actually written down and hopefully also implemented fairly and equally without fear or favour.
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Many left the grid at that time, and many very talented people did not return, and many of us who still use OSGrid no longer contribute financially as it's felt that this just rewards the entitled behaviour of those who run the grid with a seemingly cavalier attitude towards residents.
Then there are the seemingly arbitrary application of the rules. I get that often we only hear one side of a story, but the fact that so many have very similar complaints warrants that some note is taken of them. I know of some residents landing in hot water with a senior admin as the result of completely hearsay accusations where if that admin hadn't been so gullible and actually read the screed, (that had been widely distributed beforehand) it would have been immediately obvious that the complainant couldn't string together a logical thread, and that some of the claims were ludicrous. I also know of someone who was banned simply because an admin suspected that they were an alt of someone - merely suspected that is, not proven. Okay, according to the rules, the grid can do that, but I do feel that when a grid runs on resident's donations then residents themselves should have some say on how the grid is run.
If OSGrid were to face a defunding campaign there would soon be changes. It wouldn't take much, and whilst I doubt a democracy would be established, I do think that something like that could result in clearer terms of service, actually written down and hopefully also implemented fairly and equally without fear or favour.
Wtf banned for what ?! And they talk about SL and Linden Labs this here is like the fkin Spanish inquisition because a few old disgruntled people that can't even fix their avatar properly and or make it look good are jealous your pixel panties are showing boohoo grow up you decrepit old goats its only a cartoon ! And all they know is this stand in LSBA plaza badmouthing and upskirting other people cause they have nothing better to do ! Shame !!
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By the way: If taken literally, the wording of the Plaza rules would justify kicking and banning a female avatar because her underwear is visible under her skirt. No matter how long the skirt is. No matter if it's layer or mesh underwear. No matter if the avatar in question is wearing sheer nylon tights over the underwear (which is absolutely possible with layer clothes).
And I know two cases of people who were actually sanctioned for going commando, one kind of cross-dressing male avatar who was banned, one female avatar who was only kicked. So if "No Private Parts" extends to under skirts, the logical conclusion is that so does "No Exposed Underwear".
Someone from OSgrid told me that this is non-sense, and underwear visible to upskirt cammers does not break the rules. And most female avatars wear skirts or dresses all the time, and fewer than a dozen ever wear more than underwear underneath, all without being kicked from the Plazas.
But maybe there's a first time for everything.
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And I know two cases of people who were actually sanctioned for going commando, one kind of cross-dressing male avatar who was banned, one female avatar who was only kicked. So if "No Private Parts" extends to under skirts, the logical conclusion is that so does "No Exposed Underwear".
Someone from OSgrid told me that this is non-sense, and underwear visible to upskirt cammers does not break the rules. And most female avatars wear skirts or dresses all the time, and fewer than a dozen ever wear more than underwear underneath, all without being kicked from the Plazas.
But maybe there's a first time for everything.
I highly doubt anyone was banned for showing a thong. There is most likely more to the ban then is mentioned. I for one would like to hear both sides of the story. Before many on here, who attack a grid, without knowing, the whole story. So, yes I believe that the "someone from OSgrid" is correct in saying this is nonsense.
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Sorry to hear that Snik. Lbsa has become less welcoming and safe over the past few years and though I realize Dan winds up as the Hit man for the grid, I feel it is some bigger donors who are behind it. They sit in the Plaza and minutely inspect each visitor that they are meeting the listed guidelines and either report or have banning powers themselves to clean up those who don't measure up. LBSA Plaza is long overdue for being replaced as the meeting place for the metaverse I feel.
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My interest isn't in OSGrid, anymore, I tired of it, a while ago. I like inclusion, acceptance and encouragement, I like people who donate hours of their time, trying to resolve your, really edge case grid setup, who you only jest met, rather than those folks you've known for years, but are only to happy to stab you in the back.
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"You are and remain one of the best mesh designers in any grid", now, I know, you're deffo of your meds, cyber, but thank you, for that small win :) xox
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I did think about creating a group, called "banned by OSGrid", but, I've better things to do :)
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succinctly put, your situation is best described as: unfortunate. You are and remain one of the best mesh designers in any grid. It seems as though osgrid is banning creators. Perhaps someone should start a group "banned by banner". But there are now over 9000 grids in the metaverse, and it's growing constantly. Eventually the metaverse will become so decentralized that osgrid will cease to exist, as many people mature, and start their own dreamgrids. As the migrant outflow from osgrid continues, the core supporters will be pressed to assume more financial responsibility individually, thus eventually breaking the system. You are a good person snik, I'm sorry to see you hung out to dry like this...
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Apparently, a tiny bit of my g-string was visible in a public plaza. Although, we all know it's not really about "that", its more about if the grid admin decides, for whatever reason, your are a persona-non-grata, then off you scoot. :(
So, just to be clear, so long OSGrid and thanks for all the fish :)
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So, just to be clear, so long OSGrid and thanks for all the fish :)
OK, OK, I'll let the cat out of the bag....
The avatar who banned me, has the last name of Banner....wait, that's kinda appropriate, in a disproportionate way....
...doesn't make it any-the-more valid though, just saying :)
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The avatar who banned me, has the last name of Banner....wait, that's kinda appropriate, in a disproportionate way....
...doesn't make it any-the-more valid though, just saying :)
Couldn't imagine why someone would ban you. Prolly did you a favor by doing so. LOL
serious tho ... There are some pretty kewl items on her grid.
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serious tho ... There are some pretty kewl items on her grid.