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Testing PBR textures and Terrains - we will be rolling this out to the whole grid very shortly - currently only on a couple of regions.
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PBR is good for floors, for example (glossy laminate floors, for example) and it only looks good with a reflection probe. 1000 textures are disfigured with PBR in OpenSim. And if you have watched the SL video closely, you will have seen that LL uses a reflection probe. Water looks terrible in PBR. I don't reject PBR, but the failed LL code in the viewer and PBR is used where it is needed.
PBR has been around for a long time and I also use it in the blender, so I'm surprised why LL produces such a bad result. I think most sheep run after the shepherd because they are afraid of losing the pasture.
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PBR has been around for a long time and I also use it in the blender, so I'm surprised why LL produces such a bad result. I think most sheep run after the shepherd because they are afraid of losing the pasture.
I will use the new viewer for the most part, but will not use PBR textures and terrains in my grid for an indefinite period of time. Admittedly, it looks nice, but jumping on a new horse has never been my thing.
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I warned about the grey textures in the non-PBR viewer months ago here inworld and on Firestorm Jira ... in my opinion PBR is currently destroying OpenSim ............................. what can you do the world has always been ruled by a handful and all the sheep run after them
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Looking good! It is going too take some time to find the right balance, but I think your showing off the potential that is there.
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I do think this feature is best for personal gratification, Because not all will upgrade and this new fad will blow over.
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The main problem is the viewer... it's not a temporary thing... because... the OpenSimulator doesn't have its own viewer... finally check it out...
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There are 2 items in LBSA Plaza that are painted in PBR most all see them as grey. The ones with slightly older viewers.
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Yes... just posted about it this morning (I held back yesterday because we only had release candidate out!)
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Why change something if it looked good before... hmmmm... destroy something that is good... so that you can do something in the hope that it might look good. ok so you think ....
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So far I'm OK with using PBR. I am running overall in mid-high settings. I keep SSR and Ambient occlusion off. Cool VL and Firestorm have PBR, but only VL can switch that and ALM off. Mirrors are OK for me as long as I don't run above 1024px and show only the 2nd frame or longer.
If you have a 900 series Nvidia GPU, and enough RAM (16 GB or more) I think you can survive the PBR era. Don't use anything less than a i5 CPU, multithreading is necessary for PBR... single core performance will no longer be adequate for SL/OS.
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If you have a 900 series Nvidia GPU, and enough RAM (16 GB or more) I think you can survive the PBR era. Don't use anything less than a i5 CPU, multithreading is necessary for PBR... single core performance will no longer be adequate for SL/OS.
So far my only complaint is just the normal first release growing pains. It has problems unrelated to PBR, like crashing consistently on teleports. That happened with 6.6.17 when they first released it, then a couple weeks later they had cleaned up those issues. Otherwise the NON-PBR stuff does not look strange, or any of the other fears I have seen expressed. The mirror effect is pretty neat, but less ambitious than hoped. It has a slow refresh rate. I saw a mirror hack for Firestorm way back a few years ago, that did a beautiful mirror surface in realtime.
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oh just remind that there are most people with old computer that not able to use PBR viewer that is too heavy for old pc not be able to see it with PBR. I have tried PBR viewer on SL and i find it bit heavy and now I'm sticking with non PBR viewer which is lighter.
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What is this? 256 color mode? or is it what PBR textures look like on an old computer without a PBR viewer?
The grass in the lower right is like a greasy nylon carpet. The rest of the grass is like cheap Chinese paint smeared on with no base preparation.
The inside of the barrel is like the 256 color games of 40 years ago.
Water is ... a strange opaque surface ... it doesn't even look like a liquid.
The figure of the wolf ... as before, when low or medium quality mode is selected.
If this is the vaunted PBR result, I see no point in even discussing it.
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The grass in the lower right is like a greasy nylon carpet. The rest of the grass is like cheap Chinese paint smeared on with no base preparation.
The inside of the barrel is like the 256 color games of 40 years ago.
Water is ... a strange opaque surface ... it doesn't even look like a liquid.
The figure of the wolf ... as before, when low or medium quality mode is selected.
If this is the vaunted PBR result, I see no point in even discussing it.
I saw the PBR Second Life demo video. When compared with ULTRA (without pbr) I thought the older Ultra looked slightly better, I understand where they are trying to go with this but like all new things, it could take a while before people are willing to adopt it.
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