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I worked out a solution for initial sitting bug in the NPC Horse (script by Shin Ingen) where the avatar sinks through the horse when wearing an AO.
In the NPC horse script by Shin Ingen in under run_time_permissions(integer perm) FIND
if (perm & PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION)
{
llStopAnimation("sit");
//llStartAnimation("man-stop");
switchAnims("idle");
}
and REPLACE with
if (perm & PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION)
{
list anims = llGetAnimationList(llGetPermissionsKey());
integer len = llGetListLength(anims);
integer i;
for (i = 0; i < len; ++i) llStopAnimation(llList2Key(anims, i));
//llOwnerSay("Permissions Accepted");
switchAnims("idle");
}
If you don't like coding, just hop over to Neiferleaf and fetch the boxed new horse rezzer at the landingpoint.
Enjoy

because you where flying i told you and asked you Nicely not to fly you didn't listen to my Rules


hello everyone I'm finishing working on a new hud version of each furry avatar will have new functions such as alpha and eye colors !

Looking for an SF Penguin

They exist :) I saw one the other day. Do you know where I can find them, with supplies ?

This is the repost of the Stark! magazine with the submissive Mina Sato and the famous Ernest Moncrieff, well knows as singer and curator of The Art Factory (OSGrid), with a kids-friendly-cover. ;-)

Get your copy of the magazine and vendors from the Stark landing point.

this might be my final Aurora Borealis.....after a decade of fiddling:)
It looks kinda vague on the pic....u need see it in action inworld, see my Picks

SOMEONE CAME NOW IN MY REGION AND CRASHED ID THEY STIL THERE AND ME I CANT GO..THE NAME IS woolf.blood

Why so much hate to meeeeee ..what i have done to youu can you tell me???MY REGION IS GONE...IS HACKED LAST NIGHT .I WENT NOW AND IS GONE...WHYY..is it yours...it all this work was yours?????why you behave like this......now i wil build again but with no public access....it wil be only for mee and to send my creations to other stores wil want my stuff..anyone cant stop me to create and give happines to who they deserve it ..
Looking for beta testers - now using coins for trading and also a backpack for carrying things around.
You can test without affecting your main farm. More info at https://quintonia.net/forum/beta-testing/208-trading-beta-... and Beta items in the Mintor shop (hg.osgrid.org:Mintor)

Batan Island Forgotten World
Rakis is expanding his home.
A life in nature.

hop://yeali.outworldz.net:8002/Batan Island Forgotten World/153/165/23

Special edition for Valentine`s Day. TIKI RAFT GREEDY GAME TABLE For 2 players only :>) Available for FREE and FULL PERM.. Enjoy :)

Welcome!

Info for all jealous and knowledgeable who claim my grid and 162 sim are slow. (user01) I did a test with an old pentium 4 Intl core 2 quad 3.2GHz, 8GB memory card 6 years out of life no more driver, "1GBite" internet. I'm going to my sim house market 60000 prim hard test. No difference to my PC i7 core 8, 4.3GHz, 32GB memory new Graficcard Gigabite. All work fine and stable fast. :-D
If my grid is slow for you, it may be time to think about the 50MBite internet and your old PC. That could be helpful. ;-)
Houses on Opensim
There are so many nice houses in Opensim however 95% of them you either can't walk through the doorways or you fall through or both. Checking Phantom worked on one house but I've deleted already about 25 houses that I just can't get to work.

Does anyone have a workaround for this for either issue?

Thanks, Amantha

Sandy Island areas

WTF is happening with reviews those days?

Aloha, it seems opensimworld is being trolled, here are the reviews I can see on several of my regions and I guess others have too.
That's not a big thing but it pollutes the right infos...

Having problems with my NPC Farmers
I have had my NPC Farmers out and working for many months now. I came in one day and none are working, they just stand there doing nothing...so I have contacted my Grids owner and told them what they needed to do...they did all that....but it was already set the way it should be, but they checked everything to be sure...so during the meantime I took out the smurf from the box and the listener...i wore both and saved the appearance....and still all my farmer does is stand there and when hit the debug...it keeps looking....please help...i have noticed in some grids the farmers are working, but yet in others they are not ....I also would like to know about the new version of your farm... version 2018.08.31 i can only find the .30 version...i am not sure i am even on the correct grid anymore with all the changes that metro did and osgrid did...so if you can please send me the HG or what ever it is i need...I have a huge farm...both my sister and I...we love your work...and it keeps us very busy...lol...and happy...thank you for that Satyr...*smiles* My grid owner said if possible if you have Skype if they could add you...they have their scripters looking into this matter also trying to figure out how to fix it...also the farmer does not give me any error notices or nothing...nothing at all...
When peoples get free content and sell it for real money on there own grid!
It is sad to see peoples who collect free content from different Grids/Regions and sell it for real money on there own shops. Today i noticed it @ mundo.virtualbrasil3d.com.br. I stoped by and saw half of our female shop content and other freebie shops sold by DJ LUH for 100 bucks of there currency (for each item), that you can buy with real money @ the website. If peoples are renting regions for real money it is not great but not my problem. But when peoples get free content and try to make real money with it, i cant look away!
Re-posted on behalf of DJ Azraella.

Why Never Neverworld.

There is something particularly bleak about a community calling itself “The Friendly Grid” while apparently treating abusive behaviour as a problem best solved by telling the person on the receiving end: “You have a mute button.” Welcome to Neverworld Grid, where, judging by my experience, “friendly” may be less a standard of conduct than a decorative slogan attached to the front door.

I was a DJ in a virtual worlds for years lately as a visiting performer at Neverworld. By the point this incident occurred, however, my personal circumstances had changed. I am dying. That is not written for melodrama or sympathy. It matters because it explains what it cost me physically to be there at all. Despite being seriously ill and largely confined to bed, I got out of bed and DJed one final event to say thank you to my audience for supporting me and to draw people in one last time, which also helped to promote Neverworld Grid.

The reward was memorable, although perhaps not in quite the way their promotional department might prefer. During the event, I was verbally attacked and abused by a member of Neverworld Grid.

Behind every avatar is a human being. The fact that an interaction takes place in a virtual world does not make the behaviour, or its effect on another person, imaginary. The following day, despite the physical toll, I got out of bed again and raised a formal complaint with the owner of Neverworld Grid. I expected, at minimum, the complaint to be taken seriously. What I encountered instead was dismissal. No action was taken against the resident. My complaint was pretty much ignored and seen as nothing other than an interpersonal issue despite the fact I was a victim of one of their residents.

And then came this: “You have a mute button.”

And there, in five small words, lies the much larger problem. Of course I have a mute button. A mute button is a useful tool for an individual. It is not a substitute for moderation. Those are two entirely different things. A mute button allows the recipient to stop hearing somebody's behaviour. Moderation determines whether that behaviour is acceptable within the community in the first place. Confusing the two produces a wonderfully convenient system for administrators: the offender remains, the complainant makes them disappear from view, and management is spared the disagreeable business of actually managing anything. Problem solved. Well, invisible, which is apparently close enough. Imagine applying this philosophy anywhere else. Someone behaves disgracefully in a cinema and the management responds: 'you can use ear-plugs.' One can only admire the efficiency. No difficult confrontation. No standards requiring enforcement. No possibility of upsetting a patron who may have a life-time ticket. Just mute and carry on.

Neverworld Grid presents itself with the tagline: “The friendly grid.” That is precisely why this incident matters. If you advertise friendliness as part of your identity, then friendliness ceases to be merely a pleasant aspiration. It becomes a claim about the community you operate. And claims should survive contact with reality. A genuinely friendly community is not one in which nobody ever behaves badly. Such a place does not exist outside advertising copy and unusually optimistic children's television. A friendly community is one in which antisocial behaviour is taken seriously when it occurs. It is demonstrated by what administrators do when unfriendliness becomes inconvenient. That is the test. Not the logo. Not the website. Not the slogan. Not smiling avatars standing beneath carefully selected promotional photographs. The test comes when somebody crosses the line and management has to decide whether its proclaimed standards actually mean anything.

In my case, I believe Neverworld Grid failed that test spectacularly. I cannot state why the owner chose not to take action. Only the owner can answer that. But users are entitled to ask uncomfortable questions when enforcement appears absent.

What behaviour actually results in consequences?
Does a resident's financial contribution affect how complaints concerning them are handled?
Are paying residents subject to precisely the same behavioural standards as visitors are?
What happens after a formal complaint?
And perhaps most importantly: What behaviour would actually be serious enough for Neverworld Grid management to intervene rather than telling the recipient, “You have a mute button”? These are questions created by the apparent absence of action. If Neverworld Grid wants people to believe that payment of tier guarantees renters a friendly safe place, there is a very simple way of showing it: Have standards and apply them.

There is another unpleasant implication to the “you have a mute button” response. It transfers responsibility. The person accused of behaving abusively does not apparently need to change their behaviour. Instead, the person experiencing it must change theirs. You must mute. You must avoid. You must adapt. Management remains comfortably above the unpleasantness while the individual affected quietly rearranges their virtual existence around somebody else's deplorable conduct. That isn't moderation. It is outsourcing moderation to the victim. And it creates an obvious incentive for the worst personalities in any community: behave however you please as long as you keep paying. Eventually you can achieve the remarkable distinction of being peacefully surrounded by people who either tolerate you or cannot see or hear you. Community harmony, achieved through selective deafness as decreed by management.

There is another aspect of this which a mute button cannot undo: the physical effect of the encounter has already happened. Verbal abuse is not experienced solely as words arriving through speakers or appearing on a screen. Human beings respond physically to confrontation and distress. The body does not first consult the graphics card to determine whether an attack is sufficiently real to react to it. For a healthy person, that reaction can be deeply unpleasant. For somebody who is dying, already seriously ill and functioning with greatly diminished reserves, the consequences of that stress can carry considerably greater weight and could even be the last stress that body can take. And once that distress has occurred, telling the person “you have a mute button” is not a remedy.

The button cannot take you backwards in time. It cannot prevent the encounter that already happened. It cannot erase the stress already inflicted. And it certainly cannot answer the question of why the behaviour that caused the complaint apparently attracted no consequence. There is a peculiar cruelty in dismissing that distinction which no amount of virtual-world branding can disguise.

I did not expect sainthood. I did not expect somebody to erect a statue of my avatar outside the welcome centre. I expected basic human decency and a complaint to be treated seriously.

Apparently that must be the 'Super Ultimate Friend of the Owner' premium feature. Neverworld Grid calls itself friendly. People considering investing their time, creativity, communities and money there should understand what “friendly” meant when my complaint was placed in front of its owner. Because communities reveal themselves not through their slogans but through the behaviour they are prepared to tolerate. Anybody can write: “We are the friendly grid.” The interesting question is what happens when somebody isn't friendly. In my experience, the answer was depressingly simple: Nothing. The complaint was effectively binned. Apparently making bad actors into clouds is your only option meanwhile Management avoided doing anything meaningful other than preserve a monthly tier payment. And the slogan will survive. Perhaps that is the most impressive achievement of all. In virtual worlds, apparently even irony can be rendered in 3D.

Neverworld Grid also seems very keen on telling people that it isn't Second Life.

Second Life gets plenty of criticism, some of it deserved. One complaint you hear is that region owners can make their own rules and, if you don't follow them, eject or ban you. That can certainly be irritating. People can make ridiculous rules. People can throw you out for reasons you think are unfair. Give somebody control over a virtual patch of land and occasionally they begin behaving as though Buckingham Palace has asked for the keys back. But there is another side to it. If you enter somebody's region, you know they have rules and that breaking them can have consequences. If you behave badly enough, somebody can actually do something about it. After my experience with Neverworld Grid, I find myself wondering why removing that is supposed to be an improvement. If the alternative to somebody saying “These are the rules here” is somebody behaving abusively and the person being abused getting told “You have a mute button,” which system is actually friendlier?

There has to be some middle ground between petty little dictators throwing people off regions because they don't like the colour of their shoes and a free-for-all where nobody wants to intervene.
Rules can be abused. So can the absence of rules. The difference is that when there are sensible community standards, ordinary people know where they stand. Don't abuse people. Don't deliberately disrupt things. Don't make somebody else's experience miserable. Hardly tyranny. And if somebody does cross those lines, there should be consequences. Neverworld seems to dislike the way people in Second Life exercise control over their own regions. Fine. But what is being offered instead? If the answer is greater freedom, then whose freedom are we talking about? The freedom of somebody to enjoy an event without being abused? Or the freedom of somebody to behave however they like without anybody in authority becoming involved? Because those freedoms collide eventually. Mine did. And apparently I had a mute button.

Then there is the question of tier. People pay to be on grids like this. That makes it reasonable to ask whether somebody who keeps paying can expect considerably more tolerance than somebody who just visits but still contributes to the success of the grid. I cannot prove that this is what happened in my case. But the response I received certainly gives me reason to ask. If somebody pays tier and behaves disgracefully, what happens? Are they warned? Are there consequences? Or does everybody they upset simply get reminded where the mute button is? Because if the practical message becomes: Pay your tier and management will look the other way, then who exactly does that attract? Most decent people don't need immunity from basic standards of behaviour. Creators don't need it. DJs don't need it. People running events don't need it. People who simply want somewhere pleasant to spend a few hours don't need it. The people who benefit most from a place where bad behaviour carries few consequences are, rather obviously, the people most likely to behave badly. That seems an extraordinary foundation for something calling itself “The Friendly Grid.”

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be different from Second Life. But different does not automatically mean better. If Second Life says, in effect, “behave yourself here or somebody may throw you out,” while Neverworld's answer to abuse is “you have a mute button,” I know which approach now looks more like a community and which looks more like an incompetent Management avoidance strategy. Being different is easy. Being better requires rather more than a tagline. If Neverworld Grid believes this account misrepresents its standards, it can explain them.

What happens when someone reports serious verbal abuse? What behaviour actually results in action?
Are paying residents treated exactly the same as everyone else? And why was “You have a mute button” considered an adequate response to my complaint?

Those answers would tell people considerably more about Neverworld Grid than any slogan ever could.
Until then, perhaps the tagline deserves a small amendment:

“Neverworld Grid — The Friendly Grid. You have a mute button.”
or
" Welcome to Neverworld the Friendly Grid where you may have to mute your fellow residents"
or perhaps as almost happened in my case:
" Neverworld the Friendly Grid (we let you away with murder just keep paying you'll see)"

The bottom line has to be this:

If you claim friendliness you automatically accept a duty of care to all users. and paying doesn't excuse unfriendliness. Community standards you claim must be enforced swiftly and across all tiers of membership and extend to visitors. I was told my abuser hadn't broken any TOS. I guess there is no actual TOS beyond the owner's mood. Yes you guessed it my abuser is a friend of the owner.

My final advice to anyone looking for a new home...lift the carpets before you decide.

I won't see a resolution to this issue or see Virtual again but that doesn't mean you can't learn from my experience.

Azraella.

CyberGlo CyberStar: Please tell me who this person was so i can cuss them out. >:( 13 minutes ago
Sometimes a place doesn’t have to be real for the feelings it gives us to be real.
A quiet moment, a little trust, and a creature born from our dreams.
Perhaps it is these little escapes from reality that remind us just how beautiful it could be. 💜

0girly0: love is beautiful in all shades what it makes, same is with life and just when I wrote this I saw this song in utube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucRulNQsuYQ&list=RDucRulNQsuYQ&start_radio=1 6 days ago
Something new is coming!

First off, connected to Virtual Beach Theme Park is the updated Tornado Coaster. Joe Builder made it and it was purchased for the grid awhile back. We pulled it out of the archive and i updated the scripts because i had no idea how to fix what was in there lol. Come get twisted.

Since i got back from my camping trip, i had this idea I have been wanting to do. I have been working for 3 days now on creating a Fountain show synched to music. Chat GPT has been so helpful with helping me create it. it has lights

There are 4 prototypes and a final version that is almost complete. The sound does skip slightly but its still so cool in itself. Tried to add some cool moving features but would crash the region. so static it is lol

I will be looking maybe for people to test this for me. I wonder where I should put it.


Spax Orion: You need some Chaos Engine on those coasters, Mistress. =D 9 days ago
We have just added a few items to the stores.

1 - Doll in a Box - Everything you need to be a Latexdoll. Full Avatar! OC Implant, Binder, Gag, Corset, Ankle Ballets, Hood! The separate items are all RLV enabled!
2 - New Inflatable Harness Gag.

Also, we have updated our gags to now include "sound". When the user is gagged and sound is active, it will play random real gagged sounds when the user types in nearby chat!
Sound can be disabled, and volume controlled.

Enjoy!!

John Sheppard: The sims are still set up for Littlefield grid residents... so visitors from osgrid cannot access those sims or get any of the content. 14 days ago
ANNOUNCEMENT
Hello again, all animeshy lovers!
Its been a bit of a struggle to overcome the last glitches and hurdles, but...its here...Perfectly smooth moving animals...at a minimal cost!
Each critter uses 2 eps...thats ridiculously low for a smooth roaming animeshie.
A well maintained sim can easily handle a few thousand events, so, before you'd get into
trouble, u gonna need rez a LOT of em,lol
The first, one of my favorites, is my zzwan, u can pick up a copy in my shop now
@ Zweet ZurroundingZ.
Have fun!
Peter
P.S: the new scripts are designed for ubODE ONLY, its the best for moving stuff.

Aphra Hendrix: what an amazing picture.... 14 days ago

Hung out at the dune art museum in WTG. Well worth the time to check out the Arabic inspired artwork. Say hi to arabian sands if he's around.


0girly0: I see one picture here just now and that is enough museum. Art is somewhere else as Cherry Manga 17 days ago
Mal kurz zu dem Beitrag * Freiheit braucht Wahrheit* von Aphra Hendrix:
Wenn ich den Namen Dorena Verne lese........könnte ich im Strahl kotzen.
Die Gründe sind vielfältig...... jedoch ist mir meine Lebenszeit zu kostbar...... um sie an diese *Dame* zu verschwenden.



Diese *Dame* gehört für mich in eine geschlossese Anstalt!!!!!!

Woody: 1000 % agree 18 days ago
🎣 NEW FISH & LOOT CRATES ADDED IN ALL 4 ZONES! 🎣

4 exclusive Mystery Loot Crates — one per zone, fish 'em all!
An Ultrarare Animesh Clownfish exclusive to 7 Mile Bridge 🐠
A Mystery Algae Covered Treasure Chest, available everywhere

Grab your gear and get exploring — full details below! 👇

I can REEL8 to that! — reel8fish.com

HarperHeld: I certainly will -thanks! 22 days ago
„Athena“ – Wenn Stil keine Frage, sondern eine Ansage ist.

Drei Frauen, ein Blick, und plötzlich wird aus Säulenhalle Catwalk.

Gold glitzert, Stoffe flüstern, und irgendwo hört man Selbstvertrauen leise lachen.
Wer hier vorbeigeht, bleibt stehen – nicht aus Neugier, sondern aus Respekt.

BK – weil Göttinnen keine Ausreden brauchen.

WestMoon: Choreografie und Lichtdesign haben eine vollkommene Synergie gebildet. Die aus den richtigen Winkeln kommenden Lichtspiele haben sowohl die Haltung des Models auf dem Laufsteg gestärkt als auch die St... 27 days ago

New complete avatar Lola


Amber: Thankyou. 1 month ago

new @ Moonshine Creations Shop on grid.escape2reality.org:8002:Escape2Reality Welcome


Ⲙⲁꞅi: I added a pinata system at Corazon del Mar few months back. I like that your system you can add players that makes it fun with everyone hitting at it to break it. I enjoy adding fun gifts to it, nic... 1 month ago
Now at Gallumbits... Meet Fleur Fairy!
A gentle spirit of flowers and forests, Fleur Fairy brings a little enchantment wherever she goes. Beautifully crafted with elegant floral details and graceful animated wings, she's ready to explore magical gardens, woodland realms, and fantasy adventures throughout OpenSim.

Free • Full Permissions • Wearable Mesh Avatar

Special thanks to Ferd Frederix for creating the beautiful fairy wings that complete Fleur's magical look 🧚🏽
three.hills.grid.outworldz.net:8002/Eccentrica%20Gallumbits/393/506/54

Darci Viper: Shes so Tiny and Freaking CUTE 1 month ago

C/C/C-Shoppe: i wish u wonderful and relaxing Days ,,enjoy it u deserve it ♥ 1 month ago
One improbable evening, the crew of the Heart of Gold emerged from the Infinite Improbability Drive and found themselves at the most extraordinary destination in existence—Gallumbits, the legendary restaurant, lounge, and ballroom at the End of the Universe, home of the incomparable Eccentrica Gallumbits.

Tonight, that story begins again.

We invite you to step through the doors of Gallumbits and experience a destination inspired by Douglas Adams' unforgettable universe. Wander through its galleries and museum, explore the library and curiosity shop, try your luck in the casino, discover the avatar boutique, relax in the theater, or simply enjoy fine dining and dancing while music from across the galaxy fills the air.

Gallumbits is the imagination of Ferd Frederix—inventor, creator, and the one who brings the magic to life. His remarkable vision transformed an impossible idea into a place that can truly be explored.

Eccentrica Gallumbits is role-played by Marianna Monentes, who proudly joins Ferd as co-creator in bringing this legendary destination to life for visitors from across the metaverse.

Whether you come to dine, dance, explore, or simply smile, you'll discover that every doorway leads to another adventure.

Grand Opening of Gallumbits
"When the final star fades, the music continues."

Don't Panic... and welcome to the End of the Universe.
three.hills.grid.outworldz.net:8002:Eccentrica Gallumbits

Fred Beckhusen: I can't believe you have the blue flames hahaha Nice work! 2 months ago
I have done a hard work over of SF Poser and the chris craft boat script. Made them combined into one. Quite a few animations in it and easily used as a template. I want everyone to grab one as you can. I think we are LONG overdue for an UPGRADE on Opensim BOATS...no excuses now at all. It is the blue square in the picture take one and use it as you like!

Eva Nowicka: Oh, it's been a while since I've been in your region... you have the KM Bismarck! Now all that's missing is the HMS King George V and renaming the Nelson-class ship as HMS Rodney :) At least the Bism... 2 months ago
Attention please!
If you are my friend on Discord, be careful because I was hacked, and there is a Philippine scammer sending messages with my account.
Please don't answer or do whatever is being asked.
I apologize for what's happening, and precautions are being taken.
Thank you!

Mistressdalgato: I had a friend who's account got hacked a few months ago. I almost got scammed, I cant believe this is happening still. 2 months ago
„Xara – frech, fokussiert, fabelhaft“

Diese fünf Looks wissen genau, was sie wollen: Präsenz. Kein Urlaub, kein Zufall – Xara spielt mit Kontrasten, Haltung und einer Prise Rebellion. Leder trifft Leichtigkeit, Schwarz flirtet mit Glanz, und jedes Detail schreit nach Charakter statt Kompromiss.

Wer hier auftaucht, bringt nicht nur Stil mit, sondern eine klare Ansage: Selbstbewusstsein ist das neue Accessoire.

NightshadeCeres: hat sie einen papierflieger als begleiter??🥹 2 months ago

Where can i find laraX clothing, kind of edgy if possible ? Thank you !


FallenAngel Absent: I guess you can find some "edgy" here: https://opensimworld.com/hop/95158 and another shop, but not sure if they have "edgy": https://opensimworld.com/hop/84881 but I think every shop with clothing wo... 2 months ago

smokey


Spax Orion: Keep BREAKING THINGS darling! Through chaos you can land on a goldmine! 2 months ago
Suche Kupfer Manager

Hallo , suche die Install exe . vom Kupfer Manager , hat jemand diese und würde mir die senden ?


ADULT_LIFE: du meinst den Kubwa Manager Soweit ich informiert bin, macht Kubwa in Os nicht mehr wirklich viel 2 months ago
i am on the hunt... my husband has a Dark Lotus body and loves it, but he can't remember where he got it from. I have searched OSW and Hypercat for it, but there are no results. Does anyone have an idea of where to find Dark Lotus stuff? I remember it was at a mall and it was a little store and it had some adult furniture with it.

Annah Gestaga: I found some are Moonrose Shopping and the creator owns Adult-Life. i've contacted him to find out more. Does anyone know what is compatible with Belleza male body? 3 months ago
I wrote this song for my sister so this one means a lot to me. It isn't just pixels and avatars in virtual...there are real humans with real feelings behind the screen. Friendships are real and they last. How many years have many of us known each other? I feel blessed for all the friendships I have made over the years, and having someone who feels like family on this journey, I am thankful beyond words. 10 years and counting... Thank you for watching! SUBSCRIBE :)
https://youtu.be/de6LWcBhyR4?si=j9_eikUkLKVU_2gk

Phantazia Serendipity: stunning visuals! great lyrics. thanks for sharing. im sure this touches a lot more people than any of us can imagine 3 months ago