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Average Sizes of Men and Women In RL
By country:
The following table shows the average sizes, weights and BMI from 131 countries. All figures refer to men and women between the ages of 18 and 25 years.
https://www.worlddata.info/average-bodyheight.php#by-popul...

A list summarized by subcontinent.
https://www.worlddata.info/average-bodyheight.php#by-area

Note that the site will convert units to feet and pounds and back again to meters and kilograms.

An informative blog post about AV heights: Let’s Talk About Proportions - https://strawberrysingh.com/2018/02/05/lets-talk-proportio...


CherylFurse: Everyone is different. Until my 20th I was skinny and had no boobs. Then I took anti baby pills and got B cups and later more. My petite body has same size as in RL and is 1.67 m tall. If other women ... 2 years ago

I am gonna post some drama ... fashion faux pas ... toe socks with cork sandals...ROFL


thedeeferry: I love socks! Wear them with everything. What is wrong with that? "I walk around like everything is fine, but deep down, inside my shoe, my sock is sliding off." Unknown 2 years ago

Ukraine shines bright


xishi: ok It's time we cleared up some of this. Those flags on the wall are all there for a reason. From the left - Ruritania might be only a little place but it never left the EU. Hence the blue and gold s... 3 years ago

Can anyone confirm this virus in dreamgrid? c:\users\pctek\MSFT_Runtimes\VisualCPPRedist_AIO_x86_x64.exe: Win.Adware.InstallPack-9918495-0
I used ClamWin Free antivirus.

We are in Opensim to step away from the real-life grid for a bit, not to have it tossed in our faces soon as we open OSW. Opensim is an escape, and while I am here, I could care two fucks who you voted for or where you live. We are from Opensim. Leave your RL hate in the RL world, where it belongs. 

Dorena Verne: If everyone who reacts and writes like crazy to my posts created a topic about OpenSim instead, my posts would be drowned in this flood.*lol 3 months ago
I've created a new group to show solidarity with anti-fascism and opposition to other hate groups and individuals. No heavy deal, you don't have to do anything to show your solidarity other than joining the group, and maybe, if you feel you can, displaying the logo on your region or in your club to show that hate groups and anyone associated with them are not welcome.

Obviously those who want to get a little more involved are more than welcome to do so, such as arranging events with a prominent anti-fascist message, even if it's only displaying the logo on promotional materials, to much more ambitious things such as art displays that highlight the dangers of the extreme-right.

To remove all doubt, fascists and their fellow-travellers, (Trumpists, Faragists, Lepenists etc are not welcome! Prospective members are vetted and are subject to approval, which means it's a safe space for the wary.

This isn't a political group, so you won't be bombarded with ideology, it's simply a group for those of us who share a similar belief, that all humans are worthy. I'll even go so far as to say that members should leave both their politics and their religion at the door, whilst anti-fascism is a political stance, it is one that crosses political boundaries. We don't even have to like each other to show solidarity, a point worth remembering.

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Just a heads up. I strive to keep moderation light on comments to group posts, but obviously I will not tolerate intolerance or other comments that seek to denigrate other human beings in any way. Any such comments WILL be removed. Cogent and fair and relevant comment will be respected, even if not agreed with.

To anyone complaining that their rights to free speech have been violated, I point out to you that I am the moderator and it is me who decides what is allowed and what is not. If you wish to express an opinion that is contrary to the values of this group, you are free to do so, somewhere else.

Copies of the logo are available, as is an at present limited range of clothing with an ant--fascist message on it. Please ask me for copies, stating in the case of clothing, what avatar you use. Thank you.

Loboto Chan: Plurality, diversity, tolerance. Always. 4 months ago
Name that Pink Floyd Song ! Answer correctly for a free custom surfboard rezzer with your logo on the boards that rez. AND I will set your waves up on your region. Just name the song that this image fits perfectly.

Moora: OH NO ! I WISH I GAVE THE ANSWER!I always late! hahahaha I'll go fishing for these fish in that damn bowl. hahaha Revenge! 5 months ago
🥳We, at R. Lion Stores, hope the magic of Christmas fills every corner of your heart and home with joy — now and always.🥳
According with Santa's nice List, this year the ladies were the best behaved, so our gift is for them:😇
The new LaraX Mesh Body is available now at our new Avatar's components store, for you to get. Come quick!
hop://watersplash.inworldz.net:8002/iPleasure/121/530/2103

SheaButter: Happy Holidays, to you and your family. Thank you, for sharing all those wonderful items. 10 months ago
Good morning all
it appears the region has been down for 2 + hours....I have a ticket in to Aviworlds to get this fixed. For those with aviworlds avi; if you wish to log in.....you can by typing in aviworlds welcome in the location . That will get you logged in, but at this moment...still cannot get to Friends region. I am sorry for inconvenience and have submitted high priority ticket

Safinemahoe2: Once again, sorry for the lost work…..but we will move forward! Pin thank you for being so helpful with posting info here today. 2 years ago
I wanted to clarify my stance as a rebel. To me a rebel is ANYONE who takes a stand for freedom, without government, corporate, or any movements/associations/organizations controlling those freedoms of speech, livelyhood, happiness, or actions that do not harm, or endanger the freedoms, or life of others. We ALL have a right to disagree with others, and to even voice our opinions, but ultimately? How someone lives, what they do is their own personal choice, and right, and must be respected, and treated as such. I disagree with many things, but respect what others believe, and feel. Yah I pray. I believe in God, Jesus, and our Constitution. That is simply my personal beliefs. I respect anyones choices, beliefs, and opinions as their own, and their right. It also means too stubborn to give up, or die to me! haha! ;)
Prayers, love, hugs n high 5's to EVERYONE. :)

Rogue Galaxy: 100% live and let live! 2 years ago

Congratulations Arkham, the second year, Happy Anniversary

Me reading Glenn's charmingly funny posts.^^


LeonitasLionheart: Gonna also add that Glenn made a positive compliment on lone wolf's post, and I gave said compliment a like. I like positivity and rationality. I do not like politics or religion in my place of relaxa... 5 months ago
While SL embraces PBR in an attempt to embrace greater 'realism' using the increasingly creaky old technology we’re all familiar with there is a backlash among Generation Z and other younger demographics towards cutting edge gaming with hypereal graphics and an embracing of older, less graphically real aesthetics. Some of this may be down to the fashionable adoption of retro, as in the numbers buying things like typewriters and traditional film cameras, but is some of it also likely a backlash against the increasing trend for hyperrealism where it’s no longer really easy to spot something real from recorded game action.

I am not a gamer, hence there have been a few times when I’ve been watching videos purporting to be actions in the current Russo-Ukrainian war where the game graphics have been so good that they appear to be real, it’s only when one looks more intently that it becomes subtly obvious that it’s recorded game action and not footage of an actual battlfield encounter.

I’m aware of arguments that the graphics of SL/OS are ‘poor’ but I have never agreed as this is a very subjective area depending on so many different factors, such as the comparisons being made. Relative to Minecraft and Active Worlds the graphics of SL and Opensim are fantastic, but compared to a photograph or the hypereal renderings of high end computer graphics, very poor indeed. Personally I rather like the aesthetic of SL/Opensim and would argue that the aesthetics are neither good nor bad, but exactly what they are. I’m not arguing against hyperrealism for those who want it, but rather agruing that the current graphics are regarded as fine by the vast majority if those who use Opensim and SL.

This article in today’s Guardian prompted me to write the above after last week I read something about the implementation of PBR in Second Life. Sometimes maybe, less is more, and if the aesthetics of retro games are appealing to Generation Z and other demographics younger than the average found in Opensim, then maybe there is hope yet that our hobby will endure. After all, Active Worlds is now nearly in its 30th year, has a very faithful and dedicated community together with graphics that make Minecraft look good!

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/apr/02/why-are-yo...

RemmyRavenhurst: I am a tech dummy so don't really understand how PBR works but I can figure out that it will take a long time for people to implement for two reasons 1) People have invested so much in what they alre... 7 months ago
Dopo una lunga convalescenza in ospedale, sono tornata a casa. Una brutta caduta mi ha provocato molti danni alla caviglia sinistra ho subito 2 interventi mi hanno da prima sistemalo le ossa con estensore esterno, poi oprerata hai tendini e infine ingessata. :) questa è la vita

Essensual: I hope you get well soon. I know what that feels like 7 months ago
We added over 1200 second life sized regions last month. All our regions are joined together so you can sail or fly anywhere, lots of space to breathe! (source, hypergridbusiness). Most of the regions are 4x4s we've got 1 8x8 and about 3 12x12s - get yours https://www.wolf-grid.com/

NoraCola: Is there a way to learn about pricing of land before making an account, for comparison? 10 months ago
The region hg.osgrid.org:80:Cherry Freebies is totally redone, my own original art freebies are displayed in different rooms : VOID, PLANT, BRUSH, RED, CUBE.
Some accessories I made, EEP, at SOUP.
All Fest'Avi avatars at FESTAVI.

Just select a room from the teleporter. Please remind that for a best experience, enable EEP and advanced lighting model.
There's no stream but scripted sounds (not everywhere yet) all from Morlitam.

photo displaying VOID room

FinjaFlux: An inspiration! Your art is like fireworks and animates new ideas! Another wonderful work from you!!! Thank you!!!! 2 years ago
Casual and Utterly Confident.
Believe in yourself and trust that no matter what happens, you’ll be able to handle it and learn from the outcome. Here's an outfit for those who are casual and confident. Maybe it doesn't fit now. No matter. You will grow into it.

oh HELLO: Outfits With Attitude
grid.copykat.ovh:12000:Xinashi

Nico "CoolKat" Kailani: Yikes. Looks like I was a bit too confident and got things a bit wrong. The outfit is now available at the usual low low price of $0. If you don't have $0, let me know and I'll loan it to you. :) 2 years ago
Hi Folks
Nice that you are all still here. Friends, envious, haters and hackers I love you all. You think Rakis is dead? Noooooo! 8 unix grid now run fine. ♥ You want my OAR's e.g. Free House Sim 1 + 2 and more? Then go to my website and get it. Hacker, trying to hack the website. The surprise will be great. :-D
https://www.rakisworld.ch/oar/
have fun.
DMCA blah blah: Everything has to be passed on to CMT. Just as we got it from the creator. Later access changes go by our ass. For lawyers: info@rakisworld.ch IGE IPI CH
Charge for your own work, but take everything from others for free !? Steal all CMT right and left and pass on NO mod, NO copy, NO trance. Those are the ones that should be banned from OS!

Best Regards
Rakis Heron
Une sand box dédiée au francophone mais ouverte à tous.
Un groupe à prendre sur place.
Créons du lien entre francophones isolés dans ce gigantesque désert.

A sandbox dedicated to French speakers but open to all.
A group to be taken on site.
Let's create a link between French speakers isolated in this gigantic desert

Hella: Merci Hicks de te dévouer à cette cause, j'essayerai de soutenir dans ce que je peux faire pour aider, et vive les râleurs et râleuses c'est toujours intéressant de savoir qu'ils ont un plus grand coe... 2 months ago
PAGANE WAS RIGHT!
From the firestorm creators own website, I quote. "There are occasions when a block is probably best for everyone. As an example, we can consider the recent 6.6.16 release, which had the potential to mess up inventory. That needed to be blocked to stop people from “hurting themselves” and causing ourselves and Linden Lab undue support overheads."
https://www.firestormviewer.org/firestorm-6-6-17-will-not-...

Ankhsenaton: Bravo Pagane ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKEZoY-TMG4 2 months ago
It's my Birthday!! Time for gifts and I have one for all of you!
My shop is looking pretty well stocked (YAY!! What a load of work!! But there is MORE coming!! And I am still working on things, but do say hi!).
I promised monthly group gifts for the pleasure of having you join my group and become one of my many favorite friends! Yeah, I pretty much love everyone! I know..sappy...but it is my birthday, and I love our beautiful community!! Flaws and all, as I am most certainly flawed myself! :/ :)
So come by, join the Family if you haven't already, and grab this sweet little bar. While you are there, have a look and see all the goodies I have for you.
Beautiful, Interesting, Strange, and Useful, perhaps you will find the elusive thing you didn't know you were looking for! Most stuff is Full Perm so pick up a gift for that special someone or that thoughtful friend to show your appreciation for them. Or grab it for yourself as we all deserve to treat ourselves too!
Bonus: It's FREE!! $0
Original content created for Open Sim in Open Sim.

Xenon Darrow: Ty Star!!! 3 months ago
The Closet.
This amazing new product lets you drop in an item of clothing, and a picture of that clothing (or shoes, or hair) and click through the items in your closet. Then you can choose to have the item GIVEn to you, or to AUTOMATICALLY WEAR the item. Note: Please use copy items. If you find any bugs, please contact me and let me know. I'm leaving it at my welcome center for you to buy for 0$. cyberdatastorm.com:8002:SandBox (yes the doors open and close...) Note 2: The automatic WEAR only works if you are on dreamgrid, or if you own your own grid your on and have OSSL functions enabled. :) Note 3: This was Arielle's idea. So I think she should have the first one. But anybody can get one. Enjoy!

Arielle: Thanking you CyberGlo, this is perfect! I been dreaming of something like for quite a while but didn't think it was actually possible. 6 months ago
Ukraine? Well regardless of how you feel about whether or not russia or ukraine is in the right, here is why it is wrong for America.
1.) Making russia mad at the usa, ends oil trade, oil goes up, everything going to any store also goes up in price, as the cost of gas to get it their has gone up. Example: gas, groceries going through the roof, restaurant costs (big mac meal for $17.00 now)
2.) Biden and his cabinet are VERY short sighted with what is best for america AND the ukraine. By the usa sending taxpayer (poor people) money to the ukraine, it means everyones income tax refund is going to be $300 less this year, thus affeccting mostly the poor people of the USA. Also, if the usa had not got into this ukraine/russia war, then it would have already been over, with far less deaths of ukraine soldiers and russian soldiers. Thanks to the usa for dragging out the war forever - now there will be many many more times dead on each side.
3.) Russia was a super power and they have left over super power weapons. So whether or not the usa got involved in this money pit, the outcome is always going to be the same. Russia will win. It was a stupid investment of american money b/c the end result is always the same. Ukraine loses.
**** With that said, I feel bad that ukraine was attacked by communists, but it's not my fault, none of my business, and none of my money should go to pay for it. It is a very bad investment of the american peoples hard earned money. We have people in the usa, who spend 7 days a week, 12 hours a day standing on hard concrete floors running a machine doing production work, who are so tired they can barely stand up, but they keep going back doing the same thing every day for THEIR kids. They work so hard to take care of their families, not see our government give our tax refunds away to a useless money pit we can't win anyway.

Andromeda: Vladimir Putin is a nationalist dictator, who rules on a thirst for revenge 9 months ago
I would like to collect a list of those who make original items or systems or scripts for Opensim. Currently I have the following listed :

Vivosim
Arcadia
Encantada
Monentes
Ashland
Lunaria

I'd love to add to this list if anyone can help me out, please. These will be listed in an information office I wish to set up with a poster leading to a link for each one. If you happen to be a creator and would either like or not like to be included, please let me know. Thank you.

Joe Builder: Is there a prize for being listed? 2 years ago
Hello folks.. I have a situation that's been brought to my attention. I loaded a 2 year old OAR of an old region I had, where I had a newbies shop for new musicians coming to open sim.. the idea was to collect free starter stuff and have it in one place, because open sim is quite confusing to people who have never been here before..

So.. when I reopened virtual melody, I loaded the old oar.. and one some of the items.. it changed the name of the creator on some of the items to MY name! I did not create these items.. I do not own these items.. I even have poster boards up explaining that the items in the shop were all collected for free on the hypergrid and that I don't own them.. This has never happened to me before and I'm seriously upset that it's happened now. Has anyone else had any issues with loading old oars like this? I have to go through all of the items now to make sure my name is not set as owner! To the people, who do create these items, I'm truly very sorry that this has happened. I will fix it!

VIDEO: https://www.facebook.com/Rogue8588SL/videos/67336982333531...

Thirza Ember: I'm beginning to suspect Rogue didn't make all the content on her sim. But I could be wrong. 2 years ago
After a year or so of being in Open Sim... I'm beginning to work on a proper OS avatar without any of the pirated material. I know Dorena's World has some Ruth2 outfits. Are there other spots I can TP to for more Ruth2 goodness? This will take some time for me, and my RL week ahead looks quite busy so I may not have much time to work on this until the end of it.

I know some of the Athena clothes I have now can fit Ruth2 with some alphas... the shoes I have on here are for the Athena. Right then, I must snooze now so I'll have to check replies later. Thanks for looking + any advice.

Luna Lunaria: Here's a link to a pdf of @JupiterRowland 's list of destinations. Feel free to download it and pass it along. If there's interest, I can also post it in the Opensimworld discord server: https://driv... 2 years ago
WARNING, BEWARE OF THIS.
For a rare time, I went out on the HG to get some updated clothing. I know a shock. However, nice place and don't want to say the location is bad or allowing this. But, while shopping, an avatar landed in the region and immediately ran to intercept my walking path. I was approached by this child avatar that looked like (the Little Dutch Boy Paint /Angela Merkel / Hillary Clinton) who thought it was just fine to try to pull off my bathing suit. I asked it's age, "holds up 10 fingers". I said, there's things called laws and second, you are wearing 2 bodies (Proving it's a dude) and you do NOTHING for me. Replied "You Scared?".

This idiot who is 90% chance a 75 year old, Dirty Old Man living in Alberta Canada playing as a little kid (Like the one I knew about in other grids.)

Apparently this old, hippy dippy piece of dog shit feels that Viagra can't do the job anymore and needs to prowl the grids looking for willing participants to satisfy his sexually challenged fetish. Conversation is Note Carded for anyone interested.

I would recommend, as some already have done to ban this avatar from your grids:

Kendall.Langley @craft-world.org:8002
580bcfae-711c-2e8d-4d8b-97d53d6e2020

Hyacinth: Not to blame the victim.. But if you're wearing a clickable, pull-offable by anybody bathing suit, isn't that inviting use? 2 years ago

und so ist es!


Sylvia-Koeln: Findet das jetzt hier auch mal ein Ende *malfrag*? 2 years ago
Lost Castles... There are many "popular" castles being circulated in world. But years ago I saw several gigantic castles that were incredibly well done and beautiful that appear to be lost to time. They were not seen anywhere else. One was a white elven castle that was super huge and extremely beautiful. Another was a grey stone castle with exquisite interior and very well designed rooms. The third lost castle was a dark castle with many rooms. It's sad these castles were lost to time as the creators eventually logged off taking their beautiful creations with them where they are no longer seen in todays entirety in-world. Very very sad. The creators were expert builders and their designs were the stuff of legend. Now they may sit on an old hard drive in someones attic somewhere, or perhaps they deleted them in a michael-angelo type fit of rage. No one knows. If you know of any of these castles can you please post their location onto this post, and I will tell you if that is one of them or not.

John Sheppard: Yes, I'd also like to see that link! 2 months ago

LeonitasLionheart: If a tree falls in the woods, and nobody hears or sees it.... Is there some illegal deforestation taking place? 2 months ago
At the present time, Amoa Nude Beach is experiencing technical difficulties. I cannot say how long this will take to repair, but I apologize for this asset issue happening a second time in 2 weeks.

It is apparently being caused by Dreamgrid software that I, nor the grid owners have control over, which causes a failure of assets.

So we have missing textures, failing scripts, body in-completions among the most notable. I will have to redo alot of it again. Sorry for the inconvenience.

GlennXpletive: Thanks everyone. It is not a FS issue or Barefoot Dreamers. It is based on the Dreamgrid Robust Asset Server disconnecting. It happened 2 weeks ago. All the new additions and changes, were completly... 4 months ago
I just caught up with the craziness about Lone stealing a floor from Marianna. Looks like she saw my post yesterday about our first monthly social with a picture of my Lotus Club on Luxor. it has a big circular dance floor with a blue arcane texture. I guess she assumed Lone stole that idea the day before yesterday's event and added to his Social region (which doesn't exist). That picture was from my Gala 6 months ago at the Lotus Club and which I built on Luxor a year ago. I have that same exact texture on one of my hypergates at Luxor. I have used that texture for years. I love arcane textures, especially on floors and ceilings - I have them on a floor in Castle Ceridwen and in my main store in the Magic and Mysteries room.

Fred Beckhusen, aka Ferd Frederi: I'm just gonna drop this link here. The above image is from dreamstime.com, the watermarked one is not not useable in any form according to their license. A single use license is normally $25.00... 8 months ago
Enough of the conflict in Palestine. Let us pray for peaceful coexistence, where every nation can have its rights and territories recognized without occupation, in accordance with the rules, and with an end to mass killings.

ToyBoy: yay, let's talk politics here, as if we do not have enough BS on social media :) 1 years ago
For any Gloebs users out there, are you having issues with the system not delivering items? It's also not taking out the cost of the item but is taking a fee for the transacation.

Id also like to know from anyone if you think Gloebs or podex is better to use? Or paypal?

Bonnie Stewart: The Gloebits issue seems to have been resolved earlier today. I suddenly got notices on all the test payments I had made the last few days. 1 years ago
Gothic Hobo Grid Attack Survivor!
I assembled this outfit three years ago. Only now pulled it out of the closet again to see if it was still intact after two different grid attacks. Say hello to the Gothic Hobo Grid Attack Survivor!

Oh HELLO: Outfits With Options.
grid.copykat.ovh:12000:Xinashi

Sweetgal: I have been to Nico's region, the assets are free so those that are saying they cost look pretty foolish. That means "finders keepers, losers weepers". That's law that goes beyond law. Get for free an... 2 years ago

CyberGlo CyberStar: Goodbye dear friend! May your soul fly across the universe as it easily flew in the grids. In the play of bright & dark, may you always be a light. 3 years ago
Where Is The Damned Taxi?
I often get an event notice from a group I'm a member of, and it inevitably gives the event link, with the comment "Here's your taxi." First of all, I never get a taxi. A link is not a taxi. Where is the damned taxi? At the very least they can put a taxi at the landing zone to make it look like I got there by taxi.

And don't get me started about VIP group tags. All I'll say is that if everyone is a VIP, no one is a VIP. If I really was a VIP, they would actually send me the taxi!

Speaking of which, I have a taxi in the Xinashi Car Bar Treehouse. It has a wine bar in the trunk. Open bar for all VIP members! (joking). Here is your...oh, never mind. Just click the link.
fireandicegrid.net:8002/Xinashi

River: LMAO at you girl! You're so funny! 3 years ago
ca vous dit une partie de greedy

Passez entre 18 et 19.30 on va commencer par les règles pour ceux qui ne connaissent pas.
ouvert a tout les curieux aussi :p
le bus : hop://hg.osgrid.org:80/Hicks 2/546/317/23
bonne journée à tous.

Hicks: elle est posés sur la sandbox :p https://gyazo.com/6d09a2df92f3ba88ba4f7ce8a6ab6c82 2 months ago
Hello Virtual Folks!

I seem to find it hard to find a nice Gay locations, NOPE! I don't want to hear about secondlife been there, that place is Drama! Anyways, I'm creating a region that is going to be Gay friendly also its friendly for those who just want to be friends and not discriminate! I'll add the region soon, I'm still working on it. My friend gave me some gay stuff, so I'll be adding those too.

Now, I don't want hate in my post, so please if you're not supportive of Gays thats ok! Its you're right just please move on.

You don't have to be gay to visit, just don't hate.

If you have a gay region you can add it to my post and I'll visit.

Thanks for reading! HUGS

Kal: The Lagniappe Grid warmly welcomes the LGBTQ+ community. Just like the real New Orleans, it’s a place where everyone is safe to be themselves.... 3 months ago

Blake Hayvenhurst: This is not a rock, this is a tomato behind a rock. Prove me wrong! ;-) 8 months ago
What Are You Looking For?
After the closing of the much-beloved (and, at times, the much-reviled) Adachi, I thought about opening a place called Not-Adachi. Starting the "What Are You Looking For" group was easier. Now, after just 4 months, we have 78 members. We are the largest and most active group on OWS.

I appreciate the thanks directed my way for starting the group. But the thanks should go to our many helpers. They are the reason What Are You Looking For is such a success. Here are just some of them.

FallenAngel Absent
Star Ravenhurst
Jamie Wright
thedeeferry
Jadwiga Abremović
Jupiter Rowland
Kelso.Uxlay
Serina Gee 
Misty Falls
IndigoQueen
Hugabug
Me!

(Forgive me if I've missed including your name).

How great is this group? Someone was looking for an item that could not be found. So a group member made it for them! Come post about items you are, well, looking for. Outfits, builds, shops, services, skills, and so on. And, please, come help.
https://opensimworld.com/groups/1060

Tigerkitti Eberdene: I have a new sim called Darkness Falls. i am searching for anything Goth related. Furniture, clothing etc. If anyone has suggestions that would be great. I have modified some furniture I found, and ma... 8 months ago
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