I've been posting & asking others about "LIKING" our new welcome area :D

If you look above here, you will see this pic that I posted. This is where I am referring for you to "like". :D

You may like elsewhere too! Giggelz :D

But that is the main area that I am referring to! :D

THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL THE LIKES WE HAVE GOTTEN SO FAR!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR ALL THE LIKES WE WILL BE GETTING!

AWESOME SAUCE ARE ALL YOU PEEPS OUT THERE! :D

https://opensimworld.com/hop/93300

We all love to fly, don't we?
So I decided to make a ridable version of my dragon, as rezzer, so all your visitors can get their own.
Its temp, no worry of littering your place.
Get yours in my shop!

We happy to announce that our new Mall is opened right now !

As you seen we didnt posted new updates the last 2 Weeks. We used the Time to build a Custom Mall for more space so we can grow.

Why a new Mall? We builded a modular System so we do not need always to change the Land. Every Store got a own Brand name so do not be confused about :)

We got so much new stuff done:
* Male Hair Shop as Requested ( 60+ Hairs with 6 Variation )
* Wedding Shop with Suits & Dresses
* Mesh Nail Shop
* Furniture Shop
* Decoration Shop
* Flower Shop
* Skin Shop ( ofcourse with new Skins )
* Sound Shop
and much more!

As requeseted there is allready a Inworld Group Joiner.
We hope that you like the new Mall and ofcourse there will come more stuff for you.

Happy Shopping,
Amelia & Hertha

Bonjour à tous. Cela fait quelques temps aujourd'hui que je traine sur cette petite planète qu'est OSGRID. J'ai un peu de mal avec certaines choses comme beaucoup de gens j'imagine. Je lis parfois vos posts, vos écrits et je suis horrifiée de voir avec quel malin plaisir vous salissez ou pire vous dénigrez les gens ou les choses. C'est affolant. Aucune âme, aucune face. Alors bien sur j'ai comme tout le monde eu mes coups de colère mais heureusement pour ma santé mentale ca ne dure pas.
Nous avons la chance d'être sur une planète ou tout est gratuit bon sang! Avec les mêmes avantages que sur SL et manifestement ce que j'en lis, et hélas, constate les mêmes inconvénients! Expliquez moi : quel est ce démon qui vous rends jaloux parce que XX a fait un plus joli décor, ou plus grand, ou plus complets?? Quelle importance vraiment??? Est ce votre égo surdimensionné qui vous pousse à dire je veux plus de trafic que lui/elle? Quel intérêt?
Et la encore pire : en quoi la façon de s'habiller ou d'être d'une personne vous regarde?? Cela vous choque les nus? cela vous choque qu'elle ne mette pas de culotte? houlà !!! Mais faut consulter la!! ca relève de la psychiatrie en fait.
NOUS SOMMES AVANT TOUT DES AVATARS.
Après, bien sur que la personne qui l'anime est vraie. Mais on s en fou de savoir si son avatar est petit, grand, gros, vert, jaune, ou s'il met des culottes de grands mères ou rien! Ca change la personne que vous êtes de mettre un jeans ou un jogging? Vous vous habillez comme sur le jeu en RL ? Nan parce que la chapeau bas vous devez avoir de sacrés jolies gambettes mesdames et des sacrés corps d'athlètes messieurs! Vu la longueur des jupes et les chemises ouvertes que vous mettez sur os!! Arrêtons L'hypocrisie collective s'il vous plait!
La vie est courte l'avez vous aussi oublié? Votre RL ne vous suffit pas pour le coté sombre? la maladie les factures ?
Je pensais que sur SL le problème venait des Français hé bien non pas du tout. Dans tous les pays manifestement il y a un lot d'abrutis. Et fort heureusement aussi de très belles personnes.
Alors je vais rester dans ma petite grotte avec mon mari et quelques personnes charmantes que j'ai peu rencontrer. Je vais continuer à rêver... je rêvais d'un autre mooonde.....

* Black White Village *
A small, sleepy village on the brink of mayoral elections. There are posters on the streetlights everywhere. Really annoying ...
* * * *
* Black White Village *
Ein kleiner verschlafener Ort, der kurz vor den Bürgermeisterwahlen steht. Überall hängen Plakate an den Straßenlaternen. Echt nervig ...

THE JOYS OF DREAMGRID. DreamGrid is a software by Fred Beckheusen that makes it super easy to set up your own grid on windows. Having your own grid means that you can back up your lands at a whim, or on a schedule you set. You also have the power to back up your own inventory. Why is this important? When a grid is down for maintenance you are at the mercy of other people relying on their timeline to get the grid back up and running. Having your own grid also lets you control your own npc's, and gives you vast amounts of power that you don't have if someone else is in charge. If you have a problem with a person you can block their entire grid, or just that person if you don't like them. You can create and control tides, and automate birds flying in the air. Another super cool feature dreamgrid has, is that it lets you just start up the regions people are in, or going to. This means you can have 500 different lands, but if only 10 people are on your grid, then only up to 10 would be active. So basically as people teleport around your 500 lands, only the lands they teleport to instantly load for them to enjoy. This gives you a vast amount of options. DreamGrid even comes with hundreds of ready-made lands you can click and install and instantly enjoy. It also means that you can run hundreds of regions on a small not very powerful computer at your home, as only the active regions people teleport to will be running.
DreamGrid has so many many options and features, to many to mention... That you don't have access to or even dream about if you are a member of someone elses grid. It's easy to run. Now of course there will be some people who have difficulty starting a program or are just technically dumb who will complain about dreamgrid, but these people really shouldn't be allowed near a computer in the first place. DreamGrid is dead simple to operate and has features such as auto restart a crashed region, auto restart all regions at a certain time similiar to secondLife's rolling restarts, and of course the ability to backup all your hard work and your precious inventory at a moments notice. Put it on an external drive and you will never again lose all your data. So give DreamGrid a try! It really is a work of art that deserves praise and recognition.

Is it me or has OSgrid been having some database issues lately? Sometimes when I change outfits it takes longer to rez stuff, or parts don't rez at all, forcing me to log out and back in to fully wear outfits.

Also I've had some issues with my heads and bodies showing up as white blobs. In those cases I'm forced to unpack another copy and rework my heads and bodies to point to the new copy.

I've no such issues with my Kitely account. May end up using that more often vs OSgrid.

ETA: This is one example from my OSgrid account. I have a few other outfits that look worse as far as rezzing that haven't been fixed yet. Right now I have 144 outfits for my account in OSgrid; many of them are just slight tweaks to a main outfit.
https://gyazo.com/b7ea4b393346f44a05ac0c2bdcf636f4

ETA2: Bloody h#$l, it's also happened to my Kitely action figures! One example here, I did clear out the caches and logged back in before making this screenshot at Fantonelli (don't worry, just added the bra and panties to be somewhat decent lol but I need to show the problem I'm having):
https://gyazo.com/f3bff907dbb9314ae78df3320b894a6b

"I Am So".
Whether it's inattention, inertia, ineptitude, or some other kind of in-thing, all too many people are lacking a profile picture. Are you to be counted among these unfortunates? Or perhaps you have grown tired of your profile picture and are looking for something a bit more...different.

Problem solved. Come to our new Profile Picture Shop where you have your choice of countless (mainly because I'm too lazy to count) interesting, intriguing, inexplicable, or some other kind of in-thing, profile pictures.

Some call me weird, to which I say, "I am so!" These pictures may be suitable for display in your home if not your profile. Whatever the case, just be ready to say, "I am so!"

Visit the new Profile Picture Shop, especially if you are bored and have nothing better to do. (Which is kinda why I made the shop!)

grid.copykat.ovh:12000/Xinashi/116/183/25

Tomorrow, one final party on Metropolis Grid.
THURSDAY, 30 JUNE Begins at 12.00 Grid time, 21h CET
Come to the Startregion, login.metro.land
Remembering all the good times and great sims that were there.
DJane LadyJo Martin spins the tunes, at this *Unofficial Farewell* to one of the grandest old ladies of Opensim.
If you can't get to Metro, join us on the new Osgrid region
hg.osgrid.org:80:Metro Memoriam

We do not have any grid banned! we are hosted by DIGI WORLDZ and must abide by the TOS verification rules. Follow the instruction and key it in correctly and you will get in with no problem. >>>>Here's a link to give to your users:
http://panel.ballernation.us/rci/AuthorizeYourAvatar.php
From there, they can choose if they are a local user, or, if they are a hyper grid user, and then fill in the correct page reminder do not to put in http:// or a slash on the end / Example >>> login.ballernation.us:8002
of the login URL. Choose the right option. Have a good day!

It's really not that hard to be ranked #4 on OpenSim when you plant 8 avatars in your region and just keep them there. I really think that is being very deceitful and skewing the OpenSim numbers to raise yourself in the rank. Regions that have been found to have avatars that are just put there 24/7 should have the region deleted and it should not be allowed. Not only is this grid owner stealing people's regions but now they are lying about who is actually occupying their region to raise themselves in the ranks. Awful!

Little hacker bastard. Look how big the story is. You can hack as much as you want. It doesn't change the story. You are only momentary and nothing you do as a hacker makes you bigger. You are nothing, you have nothing, you will not have been in the end. How pathetic and pitiful. You think what you do is important and right. But you are alone, frustrated, and your hacking successes are those pathetic self-affirmations that don't really satisfy you. You want a world where you are respected. But you are not able to find your way in this world. Not able to approach people and see and accept the positive. To be or not to be, that is the question. In the end it was light or nothing. It's up to you. The negative cannot win. The + always flows to the - and no hacker turns it around. Hackers are mostly children of drug parents or rich people who are socially unfit. So sad, OK smart kids wake up sometime and make something of their life. Failures give up and their characters become impoverished. They fight hard for recognition in an environment where everyone is abusing everyone else to achieve the same illusion. In principle intelligent .... but what use is it if you are socially unfit? There are people who have created positive things, whose name will survive. Your miserable life and the attempts to enrich yourself ...... Your demise will not be noticed.

NEW! Female clothes now at Starchild Shoppe
I did say I wouldn't do female clothes to...but Moon in Gemini so..here it is! (I guess @GentleDragonheart called it out in my previous post!)
I will bring some very sexy/barely-there clothes for the gals.
Starting with two Fatpacks: Thalia and Serin
Thalia comes for Legacy + Perky, Maitreya +Petite, and Reborn
Serin comes for Legacy +Perky +Bombshell, Lara X +Petite X, and Reborn +Waifu
Both come with HUDs with several textures and materials!

Taxi: hop://sanctumastra.com:8002/StarchildShoppe/98/135/26

The sim has been busy and I appreciate all the feedback I have received. However I guess I can't please everyone. I shall try and explain why I have done what I have done in a better way so that people can understand.

Yes the previous layout of the sim was great, yes it did use a lot of prims, yes I struggled to put things out and they all remained in my inventory not seeing the light of day. Yes I decided that the easiest way for everyone to have access to all my items was to put them in boxes (no the boxes don't have pictures because there are random items in there and I wouldn't have a clue as to what picture to put in there). However it appears that people were happy not having access to my inventory. They were happy to have the sim as it was previously (I am glad this is the minority because I have worked so hard to get this all done this way).

Not everyone will be happy at my decision, but I believe that the decision I made was the right one. So for everyone that was happy to have the previous sim I only apologise that I wouldn't have been able to get over 10K of items to you and you would have been stuck with the minimal. I apologise that I have decided to use as minimal prims as I could so that I can create more boxes rammed with items. I can only apologise if you now choose not to come.

But to everyone else that has come along and grabbed the hundreds of boxes of items in the store and loved shopping, I thank you ♥

As many people know... I am the cat's meow. I have 2 cats, dash & applejack, which I adopted from a shelter. They were found in the sewer drain. Someone tried to drown them? I don't know. But any way. They are very happy now living in my house. But aside from this and their many funny antics, I am announcing my return to the virtual worlds. Since the recovery was awesome, (and why wouldn't it be? I did it.), I now have most of my builds replaced. It is with great joy and fierce resolution that I have decided to tear down the wizardry shop again. ( I tore it down once and let Safine sell the magic huds for me.) But it came back, when I recovered the oars. This time I will sink the land under water and decimate the trees and shrubbery, plus I will obliterate the vines and flowers. This should leave nothing, but water. I do plan to leave the wizards house, since it is so full of magic, the wizards shack, and of course the school of magical education and generalized debauchery. I am deeply saddened to hear of the heartfelt tragedy osgrid is going through losing all their inventory... I know many of you will miss the early prim built furniture if only for it's historical sentiment. Many lands people owned but died after renting a server for 50 years will be disappeared from osgrid. Many people who died will be removed from the databases. Are you one of them? Boo! So anyways, as you may have surmised from my initial scribery on the wall of html everything is copacetic. Karma says what goes around comes around, a good reason to strap a 24 pack of charmin around your hiney. Cheers!

I WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING.

REGION WILL BE BACK UP LATER TODAY

SOMETIMES PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE ON THE EDGE INCUDING ME, I LOVE DG. SOMETIMES WHEN YOU LIVE ON THE EDGE AND UPDATE DG WITH BETAS YOU RUN INTO ISSUES. THE GRID HAD LOADING ISSUES ALONG WITH LOADING OAR ONTO THIS REGION.

IT TURNS OUT THE ISSUE WITH GETTING THE REGION BACK WAS A CORRUPTED OAR. I HAVE ROLLED BACK TO A STABLE VERSION AND HOPEFULLY WILL NOW BE ABLE TO DO SYSTEM WIDE BACKUPS AND SHOULD HAVE NO MORE LOADING REGION ISSUES.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK FRED FOR ALL HIS HARD WORK!

REGION IS OFFLINE FOR NOW

If you have land in this region you will have go and reclaim it once its back online. you will have to re build.

I am so sorry this happend, not sure how but an oar got on the region and erased what was there.

And before anyone asks about recent backups, due to issues with dream grid we cant do any current backups until its fixed. once we get things settles, I will do a system wide backup as well as oars.

A PEICE OF ADVICE, DONT LIVE ON THE EDGE LIKE US AND TRY BETAS LOL THEY ARE CALLED BETAS FOR A REASON, STICK WITH THE CURRENT VERSION FRED SAYS IS STABLE.

here we are. another collaborative project that opensim allows.
starting from a fact that could pass for a joke we have a group and a region.
to participate it's simple. you must be the creator of the object and give it full perm.
the region is provided to us by hyacinthe admin of https://groovyverse.com/.
you need the group to rez.
the osw group : https://opensimworld.com/groups/1078
there is no desire for competition or even provocation.
let's say that it is the product of amateur creators but in a less standardized way

what if.....
we spent our time focusing on our similarities
instead of our differences?

I have seen many discussions here become very toxic recently because people are focused on how we are all different. I love how we all are different, but we also have some common similarities; the most obvious is that we are all people behind the pixels.

Sometimes in life and Opensim, it is much easier to tear a person down than to build them up. Let's make the extra effort and support eachother!

This is our Opensim.....lets take pride in it!

what if.....
we spent our time focusing on our similarities
instead of our differences?

Right. Some people seem to twist their knickers about this, so kind dumbing it down. To be clear again: we are just a bunch of friends from different grids that want to align OURSELVES (not others), on SOME stuff.

My sweet elderly neighbor had a long visit with me. She talked about her life and things She has done. She used to work for MTV in New York and met a lot of famous people. But She is very wise and a great friend. Today She told me that when you feel like things are getting to you just to remember, it's up to you if you let them. You don't have to. You never have to give in to bad people or even get upset by them. So when people on the internet make you angry, it's b/c you choose to let them. You read what they wrote and decided to have that particular reaction to their typed writing. You don't have to do that. It's like Dr. Wayne Dyer says, "Some people have a remote control on their shirt sleeve, they are having a great day or whatever, and someone comes in and takes the remote and pushes their buttons. Someone else controls them. Where previously they were happy and having a great day, now they are angry and upset. So don't let people take your control."

*** FLORA - AUGUST 14th 2024 NEW RELEASE***
GIANT SEQUOIA TREES PACK (Sequoiadendron giganteum), from Californian forests to your SIM!
AVAILABLE AT FOREST AREA, BOX 01!
01 prim mesh trees - 03 different models - Animated smooth leaves.. and seasonal textures included!
And another heads up. something I`m going to do from now on,I will be offering as well "suggestions" like a big cluster of trees, different sizes and rotations, for both flat area or slopes. I noticed many here rez trees and shift copy others and it doens`t look good (looks like Clones from Starwars lolol).I bet many will enjoy that idea.

This 1 is for you and me, living out our dreams!
And We are All right where we should be!
With our arms out wide, I Open my Eyes...
and now all I want to see...
Is a sky full of Lighters!

By the time you hear this I will have already spiraled up
I would never do nothing to let you cowards fuck my world up
If I was you I would duck, or get struck, like lightning,
Fighters keep fighting, put your lighters up, point 'em skyward uh
Had a dream, I was king, I woke up, still king.

'Til nobody else even fucking feels me, 'til it kills me

Feel free, but from now on I'm refusing to ever give up
Only thing I ever gave up's using no more excuses
Excuse me if my head is too big for this building

I love it when I tell 'em shove it
'Cause it wasn't that, long ago when Leo sat, flustered lacked luster
'Cause he couldn't cut mustard, muster up, nothing
Brain fuzzy, 'cause he's buzzin', woke up from that buzzin'
Now you wonder why he does it, how he does it
Wasn't 'cause he had buzzards circlin' around his head
Waiting for him to drop dead, was it?
Or was it 'cause them bitches wrote him off
Little hussy ass, scuzzes, fuck it, guess it doesn't matter now, does it
What difference it make?
What it take to get it through your thick skulls
That this ain't some bullshit
People don't usually come back this way
From a place that was dark as I was in
Just to get to this place
Now let these words be like a switch blade to a hater's ribcage
And let it be known that from this day forward
I wanna just say thanks 'cause your hate is what gave me the strength
So let 'em Bics raise 'cause I came with 5'9" but I feel like I'm 6'8″!

I cried plenty tears, my daddy got a bad back
So it's only right that I write 'til he can march right into that post office and tell 'em to hang it up

I'll stop when I'm at the very top
You shitted on me on your way up
It's 'bout to be a scary drop

Every hour, happy hour now
Life is wacky now

Now I'm just the cat's meow, ow
Classic cow, always down for the catchweight like Pacquiao
Ya'll are doomed
I remember when T-Pain ain't wanna work with me
My car starts itself, parks itself and autotunes
'Cause now I'm in the Aston
I went from having my city locked up
To getting treated like Kwame Kilpatrick
And now I'm fantastic
Compared to a weed high

Y'all bugging out like Wendy Williams staring at a beehive
And how real is that
I remember signing my first deal and now I'm the second best, I can deal with that
Now Bruno can show his ass, without the MTV awards gag...

You and I know what it's like to be kicked down
Forced to fight
But tonight, we're alright
So hold up your lights
Let it shine
'Cause, this one's for you and me, living out our dreams
We're all right where we should be
With my arms out wide, I open my eyes
And now all I wanna see
Is a sky full of lighters
A sky full of lighters

This post is dedicated to those who refuse to stand idle and take everyone's shit. Those who fight for what is right and what they believe in. Those who do their best to enact positive change and enlightenment in the face of adversity. Yes i posted lyrics from a song...a very inspirational song with a positive message. Now all i want to see...is a sky full of Lighters!

I’ve crafted this article to assist individuals eager to upload their models to Opensimulator but unsure of where to begin. This guide aims to direct you toward exceptional resources, making the process much more accessible.

---->It is not all botted from SL
Many SL creators obtain their models from these same resources.
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https://three.hills.grid.outworldz.net/index.php/2024/03/0...

Hey everyone, in just a few days I will be on vacation. May 17-26th, I am going where there are sunny skies and palm trees.

During that time i wont be in world much if at all, but if there are any problems with the grid send me a message. You can message me here or via email on my website. I will respond when i am able.

To all hg users and members, if you hop to virtual beach region and teleport board is all white, just click up top where it says touch to update and you should be good to go.

im still here for a few more days but after that, ill see you when i get back.

A blog post about the grid

https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2024/05/wolf-grid-opensim-chatgp...

Corner and Row stores (you can see the row one next to the corner), scripted the doors, which thanks to the axis, rotate beautifully.
Uber: hop://playground.darkheartsos.com:8002/Darkhearts Boutiques/390/351/23
Or for those from HG: https://opensimworld.com/hop/91802

Heute Abend im Tosca!
Nikolaus-Party,
der euch jede Menge an Geschenken mitgebracht hat
und die gibt es "nur" heute !!!!!!

Tonight at Tosca!
Santa Clause-Party,
who's bringing you all-time goodies,
just available today.

☻☺ !i! TOSCA !i! ☺☻

:*★*:. .:*☆*:. .:*★*:. .:*☆*:. .:*★*:. .:*☆*:. .:*★
┊ ┊ ┊ ┊ ❤ ☑ Nasti on Air
┊ ┊ ┊ ☆ ☑ When: 19 Uhr/ 7 p.m
┊ ┊ ❤ ☑Where: ♫ !i! TOSCA!i! ♫
✎... This is gonna be an amazing party!!!
.:*★*:. .:*☆*:. .:*★*:. .:*☆*:. .:*★*:..:*☆*:. .:*★

Wir freuen uns auf euch
Were awaiting you

For those who still aren't sure. (And if you don't mind, don't publish your region)

Second Life and OpenSim are not traditionally classified as "games" in the way titles like World of Warcraft or Fortnite are. Instead, they are often described as virtual worlds or metaverses. Here's an explanation:

Lack of Predetermined Objectives: Unlike many games that have specific objectives, missions, or end goals, Second Life and OpenSim don't offer specific tasks for players. Users decide what they want to do, whether it's socializing, building, trading, or exploring.

Creation and Customization: In both platforms, users can create almost anything, from virtual structures to clothing and art. This level of creative freedom is broader than in most traditional games.

Real Economy: Both Second Life (with its Linden Dollar, L$) and certain OpenSim grids have their own economies and currencies, which in some cases can be exchanged for real money.

Social Interaction: A major draw for many users of both platforms is social interaction, similar to a chat room or social media platform, but in a 3D environment.

Diverse Uses: There are various reasons why people use these platforms, from simple social interaction to business, education, training, simulations, and other purposes unrelated to gaming.

However, although they aren't games in the traditional sense, some users might participate in game-like activities within these virtual worlds or set up regions and environments with game-like objectives.

In essence, both Second Life and OpenSim are more like expansive 3D social platforms or metaverses than traditional games.


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Second Life y OpenSim no se clasifican tradicionalmente como "juegos" de la manera que lo hacen títulos como World of Warcraft o Fortnite. En su lugar, a menudo se describen como mundos virtuales o metaversos. A continuación, una explicación:

Falta de Objetivos Predeterminados: A diferencia de muchos juegos que tienen objetivos específicos, misiones o metas finales, Second Life y OpenSim no ofrecen tareas específicas para los jugadores. Los usuarios deciden qué quieren hacer, ya sea socializar, construir, comerciar o explorar.

Creación y Personalización: En ambas plataformas, los usuarios pueden crear casi cualquier cosa, desde estructuras virtuales hasta ropa y arte. Este nivel de libertad creativa es más amplio que en la mayoría de los juegos tradicionales.

Economía Real: Tanto Second Life (con su Linden Dollar, L$) como ciertas redes de OpenSim tienen sus propias economías y monedas, que en algunos casos pueden ser intercambiadas por dinero real.

Interacción Social: Un gran atractivo para muchos usuarios de ambas plataformas es la interacción social, similar a una sala de chat o plataforma de redes sociales, pero en un entorno 3D.

Usos Diversos: Hay diversas razones por las que la gente usa estas plataformas, desde la simple interacción social hasta negocios, educación, capacitación, simulaciones y otros propósitos no relacionados con los juegos.

Sin embargo, aunque no son juegos en el sentido tradicional, algunos usuarios pueden participar en actividades tipo juego dentro de estos mundos virtuales, o establecer regiones y entornos con objetivos similares a los de un juego.

En esencia, tanto Second Life como OpenSim son más como plataformas sociales 3D expansivas o metaversos que juegos tradicionales.

what do you think is the "standard" height for an avatar? I've noticed that in SL the basic avatars, the ones they give you when you first register, are about 1.75 meters tall or a little taller or a little shorter.

Even the Shapes of the various body and head creators provide shapes of about 1.90 maximum if I remember correctly.

Many users raise their avatars even beyond 2 meters in height reaching even up to 2.40 meters which is really a lot.

Tall avatars, always look slimmer and more defined, but they are often "bulky," not properly seated for example on a chair because they pierce the coffee table for example, or even in vehicles a foot comes out of the helicopter another example.

so what is the average and correct height for a vatar, regardless of what you may like personally, because then rightly everyone makes the shape as they prefer, but the standard heights the ones that should be corect, in your opinion what are they?